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  1. Veteran driver

    Veteran driver Medium Load Member

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    Many trucking companies know that from an ethical standpoint, they cannot coerce you into driving against your will when you feel it is no longer safe. They understand how complicated saying the wrong thing to a driver can be. Recording devices and lawyers love to nail overzealous and unscrupulous dispatchers. To combat this, companies use psychological tatctics to surreptitiously compel a driver to "keep it moving" to plant the seed of urgency in the drivers mind, in such a way that he is compelled to drive. "Service failures " are a tool to use against a driver. A drivers record is important to him. In order to remain a viable candidate for a potential employer, he must acquiescence with the unwritten company policy. Safety first is a euphemism for "#### the torpedoes full speed ahead" Compromising driver saftey in the name of profit has long been a problem in this industry.
     
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    Companies know they are always competing with other companies for freight or customers. Touting 100% on time delivery. When in reality 100% is unrealistic. There are simply too many variables in the equation that would prevent a 100% on time deliver rating. In the interest of maintaining continuity, companies must convey the mantra that "service is all we got" if we can't provide quality service to the customer, then we're no better than the Mega companies. This message of course is ostensibly designed to convince the driver that being a team player and going above and beyond the call of duty in the name of on time delivery is what is expected of him, and that he is an integral part of the company flourishing. But truth be told all companies say this. (Service is all we got) Companies are interested in profit. And the driver is the pawn on the chess board.
     
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    The basic rudimentary, fundamental ethos of any trucking company is the transportation of product. To achieve this a company needs two basic components.
    1.Trucks
    2. Drivers.
    Historically the driver has always been the backbone of any trucking company. Truck drivers to a trucking company are what lawyers are to a law firm. Good quality drivers are worth their weight in gold. Most companies recognize a skilled driver. Once a company no longer values or appreciates the contributions and the experience that the driver brings to the table, then its time to move on.
     
  5. pusherman

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    I'm not too smart but looking @ all lease purchase's from carriers out here; it's simple to see that they are only out for themselves. u have all the expenses while they actually incur a fraction of what u have to pay out. they're making money off of that individual leasing the truck from them & then turning around & leasing the truck back to them. duhhhhh ding ding ding ding doesn't anyone see that it's a total rip off.
     
  6. Veteran driver

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    Indeed Pusherman. But we must keep in mind that unscrupulous business practices are not illegal. Taking advantage of either unsuspecting drivers or drivers who do not read their contracts is not a crime yet. But leasing is huge business albeit unethical. Lots of drivers want to become O/O's with visions of riding down the road in their own truck. Companies know that drivers are basically paying for a job and have no real individual autonomy. A sad and deplorable business practice.
     
  7. Milkman719

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    I have read a lot blogs on this company lease trucks. It seems to me they don't benefit the driver as much as the company. It sounds better to me to either lease or buy a used truck myself. new truck big payment not for me and I would have the truck checked out and when I get the green light on the tuck start a account for repairs. instead of a big truck payment I would put that extra cash in my repair account. I see a lot of used trucks running so they must not be in the shop all the time. the other thing I hear company lease drivers say is "the company pays for fuel tax, lumpers, ect " So they take it out of there profit to pay it for you? NOT its paid by the driver one way or another it just is brokered through the company. I'm saving up my cash and researching on this topic. Another thing I was thinking about is pulling for a local outfit and buying a daycab. So much to look into but this site helps a lot.
     
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  8. Trudger

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    When these companies, including JCT, pulled these crappy stunts when I attempted to do things that an independent contractor can do, such as taking time off (and even scheduling it), deadheading on my own dime, etc., I became angry. The disruption and financial hardship these caused for my family at the time were harsh. However, with time (and a great local job), I have chosen to not pursue these companies any further as it is a waste of time, period. I did make one of the companies that had a L/P through, pay for my family's rent, car payment and utilities for the next month vs. taking them to court, which they paid the very next day I turned the truck in. They knew their company screwed up and that was acceptable to me.

    As I've stated numerous times on here, the L/P is NOT for everyone. Some people walk into it better prepared than I was, meaning they have money in savings (for slow times), or they don't have a reason to "have" to spend any time at home (no family, etc.). Yes, I believe wholeheartedly that had I been SINGLE with no family commitments, then I would have succeeded in ANY of thee three L/P plans I was involved with in my OTR career. As we get wiser with age, the truths of our choices sometimes make more sense to us now, than they did at the time "our world" was crashing down around us.

    For those who do get involved with JCT or any other L/P plan, know what is ahead of you, plan to have some sort of way to pay your "at home" bills should slow times creep around (and they do), and just know that life on the road is what you will have to commit to in order to pay off that truck and finally be a true O/O. Good luck, plan better than I did. :)
     
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  9. popcorn169

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    You know that you have been in 3 l/p and they all failed right? Don't you think that is not their fault it might be you. I have seen the contract and I don't see where they are going to pay you to be at home and turn down loads all the time and want to run certain areas it's just not gonna happen.

    I don't see where they had to pay your rent but hey you got it paid for on someone else's dime.

    You stated that you where going to take JCT to court (in one of your posts) but that did not happen either. Maybe you found out that it was on you and not them. I am sure you can go home when you want to and turn down loads but it comes with consequences.
     
  10. Stile

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    Good!

    Leasing a truck is starting a business. Doing either without capital is a mistake that can easily turn into failure.
     
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    Google the term caveat emptor.

    (Cliff's note version: Do your research before buying anything)
     
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