Risks of double brokering

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by Ben Grinev, Dec 22, 2017.

  1. Ben Grinev

    Ben Grinev Light Load Member

    Feb 8, 2016
    Yea but TQL, again, has brokerage authority.
  2. Ben Grinev

    Ben Grinev Light Load Member

    Feb 8, 2016
    I'm talking about carrier to carrier. Not broker to broker
  3. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

    May 10, 2015
    Detroit, MI
    Was about to post the same thing. Got burned by them today. Waited an hour for the rate confirmation and just told them to f..off when they asked to wait another 5 min.
    Every question I asked girl had to call somewhere else to get an answer
  4. Mattflat362

    Mattflat362 Road Train Member

    Feb 18, 2015
    Avon Lake, Ohio
    I am ##### done with that crap. Rate con now or the next phone call from a broker with a good rate gets you screwed. "You couldn't hold the truck for me for 5 minutes!?" Me: Nope pizz off and get your crap together or never call me again.

    TQL gave me a load on a Friday for Monday pick up and said they would not release carrier info until Monday.

    I said 5 minutes or take me off the load.

    This whole game is turning me in to a monster and I don't like it.

    Send me to a shipper that is strict appointments only and you did not make one? Smell you later....and you get billed for 850 day rate. Don't pay it? I block your number, blast you on DAT and google locations. The google reviews (via locations on google maps) seems to get their attention very very quickly.

    Sorry for the rant but man just one bad broker can send me down a path of I don't care if I succeed or fail but it won't be because of you *&^%*&@!

    I would never do carrier to carrier...sounds like a pain.
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2017
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  5. PPDCT

    PPDCT Medium Load Member

    Jun 15, 2017
    St. Paul, MN
    Pretty sure it's illegal if you don't have brokerage authority. I'd have to double check and find the relevent legal stuff to confirm.
  6. Majestic 670

    Majestic 670 Medium Load Member

    May 10, 2016
    I leased to landstar pulling van 2014-2016
    I got pissed and started doing power-only.
    Too many of the same loads on the board posted by multiple agents. Then they get it from another brokerage and so on. There’s good and bad at landstar but the unethical double broker bs will be flat out denied by any landstar agent. Landstar has most of those van drivers living on the advances or just barely getting by.
  7. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

    Mar 5, 2012
    Ontario Canada
    On the plus side.......
    When you work up the courage to cut the #### and go talk directly to the customer ...... It is easy for you to be the first one they call seeing as you aren't going to bull #### around. I'll be there at this time to pick it up and I'll deliver it at this time and this is the amount. Kapisch? Kapisch. Happy customer. Happy trucking. Makes it real easy.
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  8. wrongwaytommy

    wrongwaytommy Light Load Member

    Feb 26, 2010
    Ben,for years I had a few guys running under me under their own authority.They signed a Master Trip Lease Agreement with me.The only problem is the insurance being from different companies.If there is a wreck,the original broker will have a dying duck fit.Things will get complicated.Fast
    as long as the carriers are safe and paid fast,it usually works out well.Trip lease is about the same as double brokering,and some of my usual broker knew what we was doing.The guys had to send copies of their insurance to them and then we was good to go
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  9. nightgunner

    nightgunner Road Train Member

    Jul 23, 2013
    Cedar Rapids, IA
    I have become the same way, if it is not in writing,it doesn't exist. I like you will not wait for anything that should take mere minutes to complete. Until there is a signed rate confirmation, I will still look at available loads.
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  10. Urziel

    Urziel Light Load Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    That's exactly as it should be. As a broker I don't consider someone committed until I have signed confirmations. As a o/o driver I'm not committed until I have a signed confirmation, or as a company driver have acknowledged a dispatch.
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