Well, I've been with Roehl for 10 years. The first 7 was national van the past 3 on a dedicated fleet. In the first 4 years I had made it to all 48 states and 5 Provinces in Canada. The last 3 years of national I almost never went farther west than Kansas City. The reason I heard was we had hired more drivers based out of our Phoenix and Fontana, CA terminals and they kept most of the West Coast loads for people who lived out there. Take that for what it's worth.