Rollovers: Preventable or Not?

Discussion in 'Trucking Accidents' started by IROCUBabe, Apr 8, 2010.

  1. IROCUBabe

    IROCUBabe Road Train Member

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    I got into a spat with a driver on the CB after I passed a rolled over truck and made a comment, something like I didn't know you could drive them that way. Anyway, this belligerent, sexist unidentified man seemed to think I was terribly out of line for making such a comment.

    I have little remorse for drivers whom clearly were the cause of their accidents through inattention or reckless behavior. In fact, rollovers are in themselves almost indefensible most of the time, I can only think of a handful of reasons a roll over would be non-preventable, most of which are mechanical. This particular rollover occurred in Arkansas on I-30 in the middle median. The truck was rolled, what I call gently on its side, that is the trailer and truck were 90% intact, and it appeared flipping it right up would be sufficient for it to drive off. The front of the truck was a bit mangled where it had nose dived into the dirt, but it was intact.

    All wheels intact.

    We all know some of the common causes of roll over.

    Speed, Inattention, Following to Closely, and the more rare Load Shifting

    I'd like to discuss situations in which a roll over is not the drivers fault. The one that immediately comes to my mind is a steer tire blow out due to road debris or some other issue BESIDES tire wear. Aside from this most other mechanical causes of roll over should be noticed in a pretrip.

    Then there is the fourwheeler, bus, other truck, and so on that pulls in front of you suddenly and hits the brakes. Now in this instance I am sure the company would still go preventable because they want you to stop the truck not roll it over, but gut reaction of most people when faced with slamming into another vehicle is to swerve.

    It is my general belief that 90% of roll overs are completely preventable. Because most are caused by the first three things I mentioned previously. Speed, usually speeding well above the speed limit or well above safe speed for the driving condition. Or too fast around a curve, or offramp.

    In attention, where you are looking for a soda, a fallen chip, on the phone, or QC and look up to see you are veering off road, and either fail to correct on time, or overcorrect.

    And Following too Closely, this one is the one I see waiting to happen the most often. People ignore the following distance rules and ram their front ends near up a slower moving trucks behind before moving over, or while that slower moving truck is passing another even slower moving truck as if their tailgating is going to push them to go faster. Both cars and trucks doing this. Everyday. And when that car or truck hits the brakes for whatever reason and you have left your self 2 feet stopping room, your gut reaction is to swerve, and boom. Either way though you would be screwed, you either hit them, and in the case of a car take another person's life because they were going a bit slower then you wanted to go and you couldn't back the hell off for a few minutes. Seriously people, stop tailgating, I swear to god one of these days I am going to start mailing your companies videos of you driving like this. Sorry for the tirade but it drives me nuts to think someone might kill my family members being impatient and reckless.

    So what other reasons can you come up with where a roll over is non-preventable?
     
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  3. brinkj23

    brinkj23 "Asphalt Cowboy"

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    The only one that comes to mind right now would be a rogue gust of wind. I've had a few times coming through Wyoming that the winds were 50mph plus and I could only go 45 mph full loaded, even at that the cab was tilted pretty hard and was a little scary. But the rogue gust could catch ya and flip ya, but im sure a company would call it preventable, but in my mind would be un-preventable seeing as you didnt know the wind was there.
     
  4. JimF

    JimF <strong>"If you got it, flaunt it"</strong>

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    At the east end of I-290 in MA, where it connects with I-495, the the ramp to go northbound is a pretty sharp curve. Used to see a roll over there several times a year. Best one was the driver who tried to sue the state for something like 'improper engineering' of some such. Said the ramp was not properly designed and built. :biggrin_2559:
     
  5. doubledragon5

    doubledragon5 Road Train Member

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    High winds gets my vote as well. Once I was driving through the Sierra Nevada mountains empty, and the wind blew me completely over to the other side of the road.. I see people all the time trucks included driving to close to one another, or making land changes to fast and most of the time, leaving the road briefly, and then getting back on.. People only learn after they have had a accident, weather a roll over or rear end someone. Usually if it is a roll over, that was a preventable, the driver learns after he/she looses their job..
     
  6. IROCUBabe

    IROCUBabe Road Train Member

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    future driver Light Load Member

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    :biggrin_2556: That'll have you changing ya shorts..........
     
  8. ibflat2

    ibflat2 Light Load Member

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    as a tow truck driver I have seen a lot of rollover accidents and I can tell you that there are lots of mechanical reasons for something to happen.
    Blown steer tires, broke springs, broken steering assemblies, blown power steering hoses, and the like.
    Load shifts which cause the unit to lean and then go over.

    But as a tow truck driver in Wyoming I can tell you that the wind will get you if you are lightly loaded or empty. We did 5 rollovers in one day in the Cheyenne area due to wind related rollovers.
    It does happen even if the truck is sitting still.

    Now as to preventable, I really hate it when I am called by the trucking companies safety department and asked if the driver was at fault.
    I do tell the truth, but I really hate to hang a driver out to dry.

    and my thoughts about preventable or non preventable. All accidents are preventable.

    IF THE TRUCKING COMPANY SALES PERSON DID NOT TAKE THE LOAD, THEN THE TRUCK WOULD NOT OF BEEN THERE TO HAVE THE PROBLEMS !!!!

    :biggrin_25523:
     
  9. Dna Mach

    Dna Mach Road Train Member

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    I passed that wreck on I-30 last night at 6. They were still off-loading his freight. Another driver said he came through at 1am and again at 7 so it happend in the wee hours. I was west bound and here's my take. He missed the curve and for a split second he thought he could get it back on the road. Had he stopped he would have held it up but it looked liked he layed it over trying to re-enter the roadway. Driving westbound you could clearly see his path off the road and then his path back towards the road. Had he stopped I'll bet he could have finnesed it back up and went about his way. Hate to think he was texting or dozing I'd prefer to think someone he was passing missed the curve.
     
  10. old-six-pack

    old-six-pack Heavy Load Member

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    loads don't shift... they aren't tied down good...:biggrin_2551::biggrin_2551::biggrin_25516::biggrin_25516:
     

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