I depend on water from the Sacramento River system to irrigate my almonds. With the cutbacks in irrigation water all we're doing this year is keeping the trees alive. The guy that leases the orchards from me will have 0 income for this season.
Some of the growers are pulling out older orchards because they don't have enough water allocation to keep them going.
Sharing Mississippi water with California would help feed America
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One of these is more valuable. And it isnt the hay, so higher water use for lesser useful output in a desert is just plain dumb.
Couple that with there being PLENTY of better places to grow hay, and i can cede that desert climates are better for almonds (not sure we need to be irrigating a desert for them though)
Sorry for your pain, but the world could easily do without almonds if their production means requiring trillion dollar infrastructure (just trying to be realistic about the cost) -
Interesting numbers. Not terribly accurate and not taking into consideration the type of irrigation though. My almonds are on drip irrigation and it takes considerably less water than sprinklers or flood irrigation. We don't grow in the desert either and the soil type between desert and the northern Sacramento Valley where I am are two distinctly different things.
And I'm not really in pain. We've had some good years and when we entered a drought cycle we were ready for it. Not happy, but ready.. If you want to feel sorry for somebody feel sorry for my tenant. He'll likely lose everything he owns.Sirscrapntruckalot, RockinChair and JoeyJunk Thank this. -
I think California's best bet is desalination if not that why not pump water from the Columbia river?
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The real question is which is cheaper to produce: MILK from cows or "milk" from almonds?
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I worked for the US Bureau of Reclamation as a map maker for over 20 years. I'm more familiar with ,out regarding the issues involved. We've seem this water problem coming for many years.
Anyway, kudos for the idea, but not very doable given everything that would be involved. That said, in my opinion, the best answer would probably be about 200, 300, 500 desalination plants along the California, Oregon and Washington coast supply desalinated water to coastal communities and then piped further inland.Northern Nomad, gentleroger, RockinChair and 1 other person Thank this. -
california needs about 50 million acre feet a year according to one 2010 study i saw, thats 16.25trillion gallons (ive been using 325k gall per acre ft)
So 890 carlsbad plants for california alone... (though this means 100% desalinisation for absolutely everything)
The plant cost 1 billion, so at a cost of a trillion dollars, california could be relatively water independent through desalinization instead of piping it from mississipi.
Assuming energy costs of 2000$ per acre foot of water to run the plants, thats an operational cost of 100 billion a year after constuction of all 890 plantsLast edited: Jun 30, 2022
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California has billions for a a train no one will ride on.
California has billions for food stamps for illegals.
California has money to abort (kill) babies from other states.
But the have no money for desalination plants. Look at what Israel has done with desalination.Northern Nomad, bigguns, xlsdraw and 2 others Thank this.
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