Shipper abuses . . . No STC's, SLC's . . . driver count

Discussion in 'Shippers & Receivers - Good or Bad' started by Hornswoggled, Jun 26, 2021.

  1. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

    May 28, 2010
    If I see the sign/notified when I check in, I go on dock and count. If they tell me after they loaded, they either accept slc on the signed bills or we go back to the dock and pull it off the trailer so I can count it.
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  3. WCA64T SFA

    WCA64T SFA Bobtail Member

    Aug 1, 2021
    Excellent point! Drivers should never sign such a statement for produce loads. Produce is subject to USDA standards for the grade and passing or failing depends of certain percentages of defect/decay and sampling from the entire load.
  4. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

    Dec 18, 2011
    I wonder how many know they difference between a Bol and shippers paper work?

    the Bol is created exclusively by your carrier, it is a legal document that says you are accepting the load to transport.
    It is where you note things like shippers load and count or condition of the products.

    I keep seeing this thing about seals, I am dealing with a cargo claim this week where the shipper handed the driver a seal and told her to put it on the truck after the door was pulled closed, this is after the driver was told she can not see what was loaded or on the dock. The shipper left a three foot gap in the middle of the trailer, we assume they had a bad pallet they were dragging.

    After delivering the load, half of it damaged and rejected, we have claim for the loss. The problem is that when she put the seal on, the shipper claimed she knew the condition of the product on the trailer so I am telling the driver that they are not allowed to seal the load, only the shipped is allowed, and it goes with the receiver being the only one to break the seal, not the driver.
  5. buzzarddriver

    buzzarddriver Road Train Member

    Feb 1, 2011
    Dallas, TX
    I would have pulled forward, opened the door and looked at what/how it was loaded and if OK then sealed it. If anything was amiss, i'd go back in the shippers office and complained.
  6. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

    Aug 8, 2015
    BOL is created by Shipper. Signed by Shipper, and Carrier (Driver) Usually any type of standard form, that meets criteria. Including the statement that the shipment complies under the Uniform Bill of Lading laws. Shippers papers can be anything. Packing slip, Loading sheet, etc. Only a Legal BOL prepared by the Shipper is acceptable as Legal Authorization to be in possession of the Load. A signed received BOL is considered a Legsl delivery receipt, and all that’s needed for collection. Some Carriers have their Own Delivery Receipts, that require a Signature from Receiver. Just as an extra proof of delivery. It’s redundant though. Haven’t seen One in years. Don’t have them myself. Only time I make out a BOL, is if the Shipper doesn’t have one. Maybe only a packing slip, or Load tally sheet. They obviously don’t have a clue what they’re doing. The BOL I make out, by hand, is just a Blank Legal BOL, Signed by them under Shipper, and by Me under Carrier. Now it’s a Legal Load. It’s the Law, designed to protect both the Shipper and Carrier.
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2021
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  7. Really

    Really Bobtail Member

    Sep 21, 2021
    To one up that, there's a pet food manufacturer in Joplin that signs the bill for you. I seen him do it and I was so flabbergasted that I didn't even know what to say. If I recall, it said that I inspected and counted each piece and that I'll pay for any missing or damaged and some other stuff. I was never allowed to see the load though!

    I wrote that it was not my signature (even spelled incorrectly) and nor did I agree to any of the stated terms beyond what is required by law.
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