So, I have been working on my truck myself

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  1. Studebaker Hawk

    Studebaker Hawk Road Train Member

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    Yes. As you research the topic of anti seize compounds, of which there are several, depending on the application you will come up with differences.
    Some of the formulations do not recommend the use on lugs and studs, others don't specify. Then there are non metallic formulations.
    My point in all of this is to read the various manufacturer recommendations and literature. No matter if it is an IKEA chest of drawers or the Space Shuttle, they know best.
     
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  3. jamespmack

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    Right, and I'm not one to follow the book all the time. But I am very picky with wheel ends. With a fleet back ground and growing up working on Dads stuff and now mine. #### good chance you will have to work on it again at sometime and I want to be able to get it apart. I have never seen anything loosen up with never seize properly applied. It really speeds things up in the long run. Now I'll admit that 2am on the side of a turnpike with 80mph traffic changing a tire, rarely did a torque wrench come out. It's not right but it's the environment.
     
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  4. PE_T

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    Surfing online there is a whole debate on using anti-seize on wheel stud threads or not. There are reputable sources from both sides. I think one of the main problems is how much to apply because applying too much can throw off the torque spec. This appears to be why the Alcoa manual specifies how many drops of motor oil to apply. The bottomline is to always re-torque after driving some 50 miles preferably. At that point you’ll know if something is wrong.
     
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  5. Studebaker Hawk

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    Permatex is the only anti-seize manufacturer to not recommend applying to wheel end studs and lug nuts. None of the others say anything, nor does Alcoa.
    I am betting that sentence was put on their TDS(Technical data sheet) at the behest of the lawyers, where a lawsuit was successful in recovering a judgement on a wheel off situation where Permatex was used, but the rest of the wheel was improperly assembled or in poor condition. Deep pockets.
     
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    This. The same reason the corporate tire shops won't patch a steer tire. It has nothing to do with laws and safety and everything to do with being afraid of ridiculous lawsuits.
     
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  7. DL550CAT

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    Not one reputable source recommends anti seize on wheel lugs. The procedure for hub pilot wheels is a drop of oil on the threads and on the washer. That's to properly lubricate for the recommended torque.
    Anti seize is NOT a lubricant.
    If done properly you will not have issued removing lug nuts.
     
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  8. Studebaker Hawk

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    Well that is strange. This is a direct quote from the Technical Data Sheet provided by Permatex

    Permatex Anti-Seize Lubricant is a heavy duty, high temperature lubricant that prevents galling, seizing and corrosion during assembly and assures easier disassembly. Also reduces wear in heavy pressure applications. The product contains a refined blend of aluminum, copper and graphite lubricants that can be used on slow moving parts. Meets or exceed the requirements of Military Specification Mil- A-907E.
     
  9. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    I didn’t know Milwaukee carried a battery impact wrench capable of up to 1800 ft lbs. Maybe it’s a newer model or maybe they don’t normally carry it in stores like Home Depot. Last time I was at Home Depot, the one they had was 1400 ft lbs.

     
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    lester Road Train Member

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  11. stayinback

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    Yeah,Then shops just hammer em' down with that mighty dump truck tree falling,cigar smoking 1 inch bazooka.....

    In other news- Just did complete rebuild on my Fontaine fifth wheel this weekend (Everything including the stop rod and Timer) Changed a couple brake Cans and did some Welding on the Wagon While its still Nice out.
     
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