Split sleeping question we’ve all been wondering

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  1. BigTizle

    BigTizle Bobtail Member

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    Need a little help for clarification. California is filled with crazy drivers.

    got fatigued from south to north California. Pulled into a rest stop. Can I use a 8/2 or even 7/3 to reset my clock?

    so I have 3.5 hours of drive time left. When I wake up I drive for 3.5 hours, then sleeper birth the 8/2 portion, would that reset my hours so I can drive another 11? Or does that only occur with the consecutive 10 hours off duty? Still new to ELDs instead of cattle hauling
     
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    BigTizle Bobtail Member

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  4. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    Once you complete the SECOND portion of a split berth you get back all the time you USED BEFORE the FIRST portion.

    In your example, you would get back 7.5 hrs of drive time AFTER the second break.
     
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  5. Six9GS

    Six9GS Heavy Load Member

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    The most important thing is that if you get tired and sleepy, pull over and get some rest. Regardless. As for the split,,I think it is kind of funky myself. I still have problems figuring out what it is going to do to my 14 hour clock.
    My most common use of a split is basically to extend my 14 hour clock to make an appointment. Get there, or in the area, a few hours early, I'll go off duty. Once I've been off duty for 2 hours, my 14 hour clock will stop and reset itself to where it was when I started the off duty time. So, if I had 9 hours on my 14 when I initially stopped, it continues to count down for that 1st 2 hours. But, once I've been off duty 2 hours, then14 hour clock will freeze and go back to 9 hours. It'll stay at 9 hours until I either start up again or finish a full 10 hour break. Once it starts counting down again, it won't stop a 2nd time. If I go off duty, or sleeper berth a 2nd time after the initial 2 or more hours of off duty time, it doesn't matter how long I am off duty or sleeper berth, my 14 hour clock will run down.
    After I've finished and ready to do the second part of a split, I usually just take a full 10 at that point. The technicality is that I still have to show 7 or 8 hours, continuous, in sleeper berth or I'll have an HOS violation. It doesn't matter that I take a full 10, if it doesn't show that sleeper berth, even though it is part of the 10, it's considered a violation. If I only take the 7 or 8 hour sleeper berth, I'll get alot of my clock back, but not a full 11 and 14. Unfortunately, it remains fuzzy to me on exactly how much time I do get back. I usually get a significant amount, but not full clocks. One of the reasons I just usually take a full 10. After the sleeper berth portion, I just have to wait another 2 or 3 hours and I'll have my full clocks because I completed a full break.
    Clear as mud!
     
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  6. Wasted Thyme

    Wasted Thyme Road Train Member

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    Main thing to remember. It's not a full 1p hour reset. You don't get fresh clocks
     
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  7. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    The easiest way to understand splits is to just remember it's your last 2 shifts added together that have to meet the 11/14 rules.
     
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