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Message:: [QUOTE="x1Heavy, post: 9469644, member: 178676"]4th wont get the job done, you don't have enough reduction at the engine for the drives to turn. STALL. It depends on the truck, but usually 2nd. Maybe 3rd if facing downhill. Hit splitter and shift to 5th high range at redline. 4th will not do it. Once in a while you are off in 1st or even granny low. You do not shift until you have finished your turn coming up and out of a upgrade hole. Your instructor is probably ahead of you. See you shift into 4th he knows its gonna stall before you do. And bingo she stalls. hence the yelling and theatrics. My instructors used a form of abuse a punch here or there and hard words. Do it again get two punches. Again three. after that you are set on the dock and someone else take your place on the road. I suspect you have to really physically and mentally get to work and pick up the gears rather fast in low range and do it right every time. The worst part about a really bad instructor is he creates a fear inside you bigger than being afraid of stalling or scratching gears in front of the world. We don't need that. Once you get out into the mountains you will find shifting to be made simple out of necessity. Its the city lights that get people.[/QUOTE]