Swapping IRP license plate front to back at the state line.......

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by mjstef, Oct 20, 2012.

  1. mjstef

    mjstef Light Load Member

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    Got a friend who owns a straight truck registered IRP out of Illinois. He runs loads to Indiana 2-3 times a week and after being pulled over a dozen times he's sick of it. Indiana nails him right and left because he has no rear plate even though Illinois, where the truck is registered requires the plate on the front. He has tried to get Illinois to issue another plate but they won't. He even carries the Illinois statute with him but the Indiana Hi-Po could give two chits. He now stops on the side of the road as he crosses the state line and moves the plate front to back to keep the Hi-Po off his ###. Anyone have any ideas?
     
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  3. david123abc

    david123abc Heavy Load Member

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    Would it be possible/legal to have a photo of it printed on laminated cardstock or something and put that on the back? I'd imagine a sign shop could probably figure out some way to make that happen.
     
  4. mjstef

    mjstef Light Load Member

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    I would think that wouldn't be legal........
     
  5. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    get your elected state representative involved. Be amazed what can happen when you do.
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Missouri only issues front plates for pickup trucks licensed over 12,000 pounds...which includes the truck & any trailer you intend to pull with it. KY & IN (and others) only issue 1 plate to ALL vehicles, to be mounted in the rear. Illinois issues 2 plates to passenger cars and pickup trucks...one for the front, one for the rear. If the state you are registered in only issues one plate, you install that plate where the issuing state wants it and you are legal in EVERY state. Illinois can't do censored.gif to a Missouri pickup truck without a rear plate or a KY or IN car without a front plate, because the vehicle is plated properly in its home jurisdiction.

    However, that Illinois tag MAY be required to be mounted on the rear of your friend's truck...

    http://illinoistruckcops.org/blog/?p=1536
    I'm still looking for Illinois...."depending on the type of vehicle"....but Indiana states:

    http://www.in.gov/dor/files/cmvg.pdf
    The Illinois General Assembly website seems to be down right now, so I can't look up the vehicle code to see if they've got the same front/rear requirements as IN....
     
  7. mjstef

    mjstef Light Load Member

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    Illinois requires it on the front of a straight truck or tractor. I lived there for 28 years but did not travel interstate, only intrastate......
     
  8. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilc...hapterID=49&SeqStart=33400000&SeqEnd=62500000

    So you're correct...Illinois requires apportioned truck plates to be on the front of the truck. As such, I'd leave the plate on the front and if Indiana has a problem with it, show up to court with the above quoted section of law...and perhaps even throw in these:

    http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code//title9/ar18/ch2.html
    ...and yes, that exemption exists in Illinois:

    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilc...hapterID=49&SeqStart=33400000&SeqEnd=62500000
    In other words, as long as an Illinois base plated vehicle displays its plates in the manner compliant with Illinois law, that vehicle is legal for travel in Indiana. Likewise, an Indiana plated vehicle which displays its plate in accordance with Indiana law is legal for travel in Illinois. I certainly wouldn't be wasting my time swapping the tag from the front to the rear and back again every time I crossed the state line. If harassed, I'd tell the cop that if he feels THAT strongly about it, to go ahead & write the ticket...

    ...then hire a lawyer and proceed to make the cop look like a doofus in front of the judge.
     
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  9. mjstef

    mjstef Light Load Member

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    They have yet to ticket him. They just keep pulling him over. It's more of an annoyance than anything. Not to mention a waste of time. Don't cops have anything better to do????
     
  10. oilfieldtrash

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    IRP sets the rules for IRP registered vehicles, not the states. The IRP plate must go on the front. I would contact IRP directly. They have been helpful to me in the past. http://www.irponline.org/
     
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  11. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    Is it local cops or the State Police doing that. I could see local cops being ignorant of the IRP regs but the State Police should know better.
     
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