The fight againts ELDs,A large number of drivers forming.

The hos may work for you and your operation. But you are not stuck with curfews. When you are you only have a certain time you can go through a city or hours that you are allowed to travel. The 30 min break can cause you to lose 3 hours. Same can be said for the 14 hour clock. I rarely if ever run the 11 hrs. Knoxville has a 3hr curfew in the mornings and evenings. I have to shutdown, but the 14 keeps on ticking. It's a huge problem.

 

I used to run overnights, Hebron KY (northern KY, just south of Cincinnati) running to Kenosha WI. 407 miles. Pick up 2300 deliever 1100. Drop and hook. Use to run 74, stop for fuel at the small pilot on 74 before Indy (forget the exit) fuel, quick snack to go and coffee, back on the road. Run thru Indy. Stop at the Petro or Loves south of Gary, IN again forget the exit. Park, piss, hour nap. Roll out 4 am central. Hit the 94 about 5. Fight rush hour thru Chi town, 94, 294, 94. Hit Kenosha 0800. Drop. Would be parked at the TA Exit 1 in Illinois by 1100.

Point is you still can nap and not mess up your 14. Just got to be smart about it and keep the left door closed.

 

Again, not everyone runs that route or that type of freight. What works for one doesn't work for all. We should have a little understanding for those who run differently than ourselves. This industry is diverse, and the hos are setup up with van drivers in mind. It needs more flexibility.

 

Im not trying to fight. I was illustrating cowpies example that you could nap and still keep your 14. Did you say the same thing to him?

 

Whenever I hear about the ELD mandate, or anything else, being jammed down our throats, I remember the American Creed....Oh how this country has fallen into a being a bunch of sheeple....

 

I know that some can't see it, and that is fine. I see no conflict between freedom and me using Elogs or the mandate. One is still free to modify how they are doing things to make it work or quit altogether. One aspect to Americanism is the ability to face adversity and find a path thru it. No one is forced to "cower before any earthly master". That was clear from that picture you posted. Americanism is not whining like little children who don't get their own way.

That is what I did. I saw this coming from a long, long ways off. I started modifying how and where I was running starting around the turn of the century. It has worked, though it didn't happen overnight either. With Elogs I am highly productive, I make a very good living, I am by the house once or twice a week and off on weekends and holidays. No one handed me that. I concentrated on working within a selected area and customer base to make this happen. I didn't just stick with the "that's the way we always did it before" mindset.

That is living up to that American's Creed to the fullest.

Folks have had several years to modify their operation to make it work within the confines of ELD's. The years before the mandate was passed and was debated, and two years before it fully goes into effect. It is not American to bury one's head in the sand and ignore that it was going to happen and whine when it does. The signs have been there for a long, long time that this was going to come about. Ignoring a looming storm cloud has not been the American way from the founding and development of this country, thru all the major wars and battles the have we have endured, etc. Adversity develops solutions and it develops character. Whether it be a new regulation, a natural disaster, facing the hardships of moving west as this country was growing, etc... Americanism was facing the challenges and overcoming them. Books are not written about those that struggle to maintain the status quo. They are written about those who face the challenge and overcame. News flash... Life Isn't Fair. Doesn't matter where you live and in what time you live. It never has been. How you face that fact and carve a path for yourself shows who you really are inside.

That is what it means to be an American.

 

My 2 cents. Everybody with regular runs should be able to adjust, but the people running spot market are in trouble. Hopefully rates will go up

 

I want to add something else.

The silliness of this subject is just an emotional one, nothing more. The ELD and HOS has been in place since 2003, and yet we've made money. ELDs are just another mechanism to measure the HOS.

Personally I would like to see us go right back to the 1962 version which worked for all of us.

However the emotion, the energy and the effort to change something that really doesn't matter seems to be the priority of others when there is one simple and overshadowing issue that needs to be changed and all of us, no matter who they are - driver, owner/operator and fleet owner - should be behind 100% with maximum effort without hesitation.

THIS IS CHANGING OUR PROFESSION A NON SKILLS TRADE PROFESSION TO A SKILLS TRADE PROFESSION.

This one change will add to our arsenal of power to prevent a lot of abuse that we endure, it will force a lot of changes in how we are hired, how we are paid and how we can get things changed.

There is no excuse that a cake decorator is a skills trade profession but truck driving is not.

 

You all tell the government you need to nap several times a day and they'll strap a cpap machine to you.

I don't take naps, heck I'm an adult,
Truck driving ain't for everybody, if it's too difficult then become an architect.