Tired of Trainer’s BS Special

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  1. gentleroger

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    Sorry dude, but you do know the meaning of quit.

    I haven't read all of your posts, but I see a familiar trend.

    Quiters aren't just guys who give up. It's people who have the ability to succeed, but do not step up to the challange.

    I have a guy for 6 days. We do three written evaluations, and at least 1 verbal evaluation a day. I stress on what the STUDENT needs to do in order to succeed. 80% of the guys who fail did it thensleves.

    • They didn't research cdl schools
    • They didn't apply themselves in cdl school
    • They didn't listen during the first two weeks of orientations (passing with a C average is not acceptable)
    • They didn't apply what they jave learned to situations going forward.
    I had a guy that I failed due to HOS incomprehension. I told him to pass he needed to be able to plan a trip and then run it with no help from me. We spent 6 HOURS planning a trip from West Memphis to Tomah, WI. HE drew out the trip plan, at the end of day 1 HE wrote down our start time for day 2. I rolled up to the truck 10 minutes before hand and he is finishing the pump down. We were supposed to start exactly on the 10, now his rest break is invalid. At that point I was done with him.

    I didn't fail him, he quit on himself. Verbally he sounded at lot like you, "I'm trying to suceede", "im willing to work", yada, yada, yada. But when it was time for the rubber to meet the road nothing happened.

    When things are going badly, I ask.myseld, what role did I have in causing this? How can I avoid it in the future? Other people may be more responsible, but I can't control them, I can only control my actions and my response.

    Its not the thing itself, its how you respond to the thing.
     
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  3. farmerjohn64

    farmerjohn64 Road Train Member

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    You’re correct about me not stepping up to the plate when I should’ve.
     
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  4. Cat sdp

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    Sorry 30 plus years of owning and driving my own truck tells me doing a pump down test every day is insane.......

    Law or no law........

    And if he was doing the test not logged in who cares ....
     
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  5. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    Ignore the efficacy of the pump down -

    He did log on duty, clicking right past the "another 30 minutes will complete your break " message.

    He did not recognize that he could not legally start driving.

    Starting early is a common thing I deal with. Guys try to show initiative. I take it in stride and use it as a teachable moment. But when we spent 6 hours talking about HOS and trip planning the day before and its the end of the week, dude needs a bus ticket.

    Company sent him out with another trainer, who passed him. He was termed within 2 weeks for log violations amd service failures. By putting him in his own truck we ended up having to pay unemployment.
     
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    farmerjohn64 Road Train Member

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    We thought my logs were fudged up after me having to move the truck at the casino, turns out they ended up fixing it and putting that on my time, it messed up my 34 hour reset and that’s what happened when I went to drive last night
     
  8. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    But didn't you know thats what regulatory was going to do? Zvar told you, your trainer should have told you, the QC definitely told you, so why was it a surprise?

    Why don't you know why you guys took a 34?

    Why didn't you know where the load was going?

    If you were practising LS, why wasn't that on duty? How did you get to "hour 15"?

    At this point you should undertand everything that is happening with the truck and WHY it is occuring.
     
  9. REO6205

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    The OP requested that this thread be deleted but there's too much good information here to just throw away.
    We'll close the thread for now.
     
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