To Turn or Not to Turn? Please settle this dilemma, Left on green

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by SmokeyBandit, Oct 22, 2022.

  1. SmokeyBandit

    SmokeyBandit Bobtail Member

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    On a CDL Road Test, you have to make a left turn at a green light but there is no break in oncoming traffic. Do you stop before the line and don’t take the turn if there is not a break, or do you “claim” the intersection and make the turn on yellow or even red, when oncoming is done playing pac-man with the yellow light?

    Think about this situation, most large intersections take 150 feet of path (One case 200ft of path) for the trailer to clear the intersection. In a manual even if the transmission is in 4th gear can go 10mph (15 ft/s) that’s 10 seconds to clear the intersection. With a 3 second window before the other light turns green, that leaves 7 long seconds to clear the intersection and not “impede traffic”.

    This is real BS that I get conflicting instructions in this common scenario. I really like a straight forward cut dry answer. If you ask the examiner they’ll tell you they can’t give you instructions. In Indiana, the four-wheel operators manual states you can enter an intersection on a green and wait to turn even when red. But when operating a Class A it seems to be a catch-22 for “impeding traffic”.
     
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  3. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    So what do you do when you're trying to make a left turn at an intersection with no advanced left turn signal? Sit at the stop line for 3 hours during rush hour?
     
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  4. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    take the manual with a grain of salt. there is no cut or dry answer.. the manual is going to want you to stop at the intersection and not go thru it unless its green.. but in the real world nobody does that
     
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  5. SmokeyBandit

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    Exactly! That’s what I want to know. In real life I’d just claim and clear the intersection, but on a road test there doesn’t seem to be clear instruction on this and been told you can be pointed or auto failed for either choice you make. I hate catch-22s bc pass/fail is not in the drivers complete control.
     
  6. Coover

    Coover Road Train Member

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    Like by a model cat, isn't sitting there indefinitely impeding traffic.
     
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  7. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    I was always told to pull into the intersection and that you are legally allowed to complete your turn if the light changes.

    That's the rules I was told in my jurisdiction, rules may vary in your area.
     
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  8. Coover

    Coover Road Train Member

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    Well if they fail you, the next time pack a lunch and when you come to same said intersection stare at the examiner and chew with your mouth open until he tells you to go
     
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  9. SmokeyBandit

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    Common sense and what I’ve been told by my school instructor is claim the intersection, but he also stated they can still point you on it. However I’ve also been told by another class student that had to take the test again, that the examiner said he impeded traffic in that situation. I’ve seen from other reviews and on other comments on this forum that they’ve been failed for turning on yellow. My school initially sent trucks to one of two choices for testing. Unfortunately one has shut down, and only one remains in the inner city and the road test is more challenging. The examiner site does have a reputation for being very strict. I have no problem with being challenged and applying myself more, but in circumstances one cannot control and something being an unwritten rule that is ultimately a catch-22, I’m having a hard time accepting that.
     
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  10. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    When I tested a decade ago the instructor told me I'd be failed for driving through a yellow light. Even if it went yellow and you were 5 feet before the stop line it was considered running the light.

    Sometimes I think they tell you things like that just to get you to pay more attention and to better plan your moves in advance.
     
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  11. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    Come to Pennsylvania. We love red lights here, and we're not smart enough to use our ridiculous tax money to have left turn lanes or even arrows.

    I just pull into the intersection and wait for traffic to clear. Cops see me do it all the time. Never got questioned about it
     
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