Trailer GVWR Question

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by CrimsonHauler, Mar 8, 2019.

  1. CrimsonHauler

    CrimsonHauler Bobtail Member

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    Hello All,

    Been reading and learning from the great posts of many including flatbedtrucker and others, many thanks! When reviewing the various trailer manufacturer websites, I see some that list for example a trailer with a GVWR of 14,000lbs, but reference being able to haul a higher amount with the extra weight attributed to king pin weight.. Just how does the industry or DOT view trailer weight when going across the scales? Say for example you crossed the scales with 15,500lbs in cargo on your 14,000lb GVW trailer, and 2,500lbs king pin weight would you pass? I've always believed your cargo weight plus the tare weight of the trailer needed to be under the GVWR of the trailer without considering king-pin weight.
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Whatever the wheels themselves add up to on that scale.

    Never mind that kingpin. Trailer off bumper hitches you would be worried about what is called tongue weight. You can only put so much. Fifth wheels pretty much take that problem away.
     
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  4. 24kHotshot

    24kHotshot Heavy Load Member

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    King pin weight is 20-25%. It won't be 2500 lbs, it will be closer to 3500.
    Axle ratings are what they loot at. A non cdl combination vehicle has a 26k lb rating combined.
    Using a Ram 3500 single wheel as an example.

    Truck's gross axle weight rating (GAWR) Is 6000 lbs for the front and 7000 lbs for the rear.
    Assuming your trailer has 2 7k axles thats a total of 14k between them, this adds up to 27,000 lbs allowed rated weight. (Safe)

    When you go over the scales, the truck or trailer can't be over weight on any axle.
    Trailer tare weight 7000 lb, king pin will be about 1500 lbs when empty. The 5500 lbs left over are resting on the trailer axles.
    Truck curb weight is 8000, Almost 5000 lbs on the front axle and 3000 on the rear axle. With an empty trailer your rear axle will have 4500 lbs total on it. You have 3500 lbs of payload left on the truck. A 10k load will add about 2500 lbs to king pin and 7500 lbs of the load are now resting on the trailer axles. 5500 empty trailer+7500 payload will add up to 13,000 lbs on the trailer axles.
    Cargo placement will play a big part in this.
    As long as all your tires have the proper weight and speed rating you are good to go.
    Adjust the weight numbers according to your truck and trailer's ratings and weights.
     
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