Truck Bounce

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by postholer, Jan 24, 2009.

  1. postholer

    postholer Bobtail Member

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    1991 Peterbilt, Tanker, 425 Cat...

    The truck bounces at at various speeds, most notably 45 mph, with or without power applied.

    Tires have been balanced and/or replaced by tire shop. Tires have been checked for out of roundness by Peterbilt shop as has the suspension and everything else under the vehicle. Visual inspection of vehicle while moving from another vehicle has been made.

    Truck has been placed on stand and run in all gears checking tires for roundness.

    The frame is intact. Front wheel kingpins are ok.

    Problem is noticeable with or without the trailer. It is more noticeable with a load.

    The bounce did not start overnight. It became noticeable and is gradually getting worse.

    Mechanic, Peterbilt shop....all stumped. Driver being pummeled to death by bouncing truck.

    Any comments would be *greatly* appreciated.

    -postholer
     
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  3. pullingtrucker

    pullingtrucker Road Train Member

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    Simple and inexpensive suggestin would be to replace all the shocks...cab and axle ones. But the problem is probably something more. Have the driveshafts been checked for out of balance or out of round (also check the carrier bearing for play). Not to knock what you have done, but many shops have become "parts changers". I would take the truck to another shop or two to get more opinions.
     
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  4. postholer

    postholer Bobtail Member

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    We replaced the shocks, apologies for not mentioning that. It only has front shocks.

    We have a primary mechanic who is pretty good. When he get's stumped we take our trucks to the Peterbilt shop. Fortunately, they are not the part changer types. They're stumped too.

    I don't think the truck has a carrier bearing. It's a single piece driveshaft from the transmission to the front driver differential and of course a second shaft to the rear driver diff.

    The driveshafts have not been removed and checked properly, but the 'consensus' is they are ok. I will press that issue with the mechanic.

    Thank you very much for the reply!

    -postholer
     
  5. Hibred

    Hibred Light Load Member

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    It sure would seem like a driveshaft problem or U joints, we had a pickup truck do that same very thing, kept getting worse and we finally ended up replacing the drive shaft and U joints, hope you get it fixed and please let us know how you make out.
     
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  6. sleepless nights

    sleepless nights Light Load Member

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    What kind of rear suspension do you have?
     
  7. postholer

    postholer Bobtail Member

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    Rear drivers has independent leaf springs for each end of the driver axles, balancer between driver leaf ends, outer leaf ends on mounts bolted to frame, torque arms, no shocks, no airbags, no cross beam components.

    The front is leaf/shock each side.

    Thanks!
     
  8. vegetto05

    vegetto05 Light Load Member

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    Tandems parellel to the frame? to each other? Maybe have a good truck alignment shop check it out. Also, don't forget the driveline phasing, not just the balance.

    My suggestion would be is to find a shop that has a VIS machine. MHC Kenworth in KC,MO has one. Unfortunetely, that's the only one I know of. But I'm sure if you call around, someone will know. Those who have and can operate the VIS machine correctly should be able to quickly diagnose the problem. That machine is expensive, but saves lots of time.
     
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  9. Brickhauler

    Brickhauler Medium Load Member

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    Try draining a little oil out of the front diff and see if it has metal in it. I had a KW that was doing that for about a year and getting progressively worse. I spent a bunch of money on shocks and bushings, drivelines rebalanced, tires etc. One day the front differential blew up bad enough to knock a hole in the case. After we got it fixed, the truck was smooth as glass. The nut had backed off the inside on the power divider and was letting the pinion walk back and forth. I think it was binding up with the ring gear and causing the hop. Anyway nothing seemed bad when looking at it from the outside. When I drained the rest of the oil out it was the prettiest metallic brown you ever saw. Just an idea for you.
     
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  10. Brickhauler

    Brickhauler Medium Load Member

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    From your description, it sounds like you have what is called a Reyco rear suspension. They generally don't use shocks
     
  11. postholer

    postholer Bobtail Member

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    Thank you very much for this! I will *definitely* pass it on!!!
     
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