United Parcel Service, Inc. - Aurora, Il.

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  1. bloodlan

    bloodlan Bobtail Member

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    Alright I too apologize for my attack. I have made some dumb decisions in my carrer. I just sometimes don't understand why a good man would leave his yard to jump into a greener one without noticing how it is. I have a friend that did the same thing who put his entire family in bankrupcy. bad deal.
     
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  3. Truck Vet

    Truck Vet <strong>NRA AMA Libertarian</strong>

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    I don't know why the guy went to UPS other than their good reputation.
    Before I went after my Union job I asked around. I talked to several
    drivers. They didn't lie to me but they didn't tell me everything either.
    I was amazed that certain drivers that were so old and worn out
    could make such good money. I had been used to being paid by the mile
    and had lost a lot of my life waiting around. Waiting for a manifest, waiting for a tire to get changed you name it. I was an experienced delivery driver in great physical shape and I thought that if I busted
    my tail for them someday I would get some health benifits maybe even a
    pension. I will admit my first couple weeks I wasn't much good, I was
    going from working nights to days and figuring out how to drive a truck
    without power steering. But after a few months I was able to compare
    what I did with what drivers with much more experiance did and I
    was pulling my weight. Where I screwed up is I should have asked the
    drivers how many casual drivers they went through in the last 5 years
    and what happened to them. Before I quit my other job. Nobody is to
    blame but me. In the whole time I was there I never showed disrespect to
    anyone but it may be possible that if I was better at politics I would still be there today
     
  4. bjohn920

    bjohn920 Light Load Member

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    Pensions are on the way out all over. I would not count on finding one. I work for a union company that got sold a year ago. My pension ended. You better just save a % of your money while you are working. Good luck to all
     
  5. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    If I'm not mistaken, you start off as what is called a "casual" at union LTL's. This must be the "probationary period" that was mentioned. As a casual, you aren't on the seniority list yet, so you're not going to work much until this period is over.
     
  6. rl- LTL driver

    rl- LTL driver Bobtail Member

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    yes, never jump to a job without spending some time asking questions to
    people you know that work there. i never had a hard time going up to ups
    feeder drivers that are at truck stops and convience stores(never hard to find
    them there haha) and ask them questions either. most are more than willing
    to answer since they are going through the [hassle] right now.

    now i cannot speak for your interview at ups but i went to highschool with
    the HR guy in that region. and he said he could NOT guarantee any amount
    of hours a week or anything. he could only guarantee that it would be
    seasonal and i would be laid off after the season. at that time they could
    offer full time employment or i could reapply for the next season. no insurance
    and if i was in an accident my fault or thiers i was fired and could not work
    for them again.

    then he told me about a guy that has worked 6 years as a seasonal feeder
    driver trying to get on full time and they were going to hire him after this
    season. thats when i said "ok man, thanks for your time" haha

    he also told me that if i was happy where i was at and made decent money
    that i should stay with them and not roll the dice there. i wish the best for
    your son but if he gets in an accident then he could be without anything,
    atleast at this point he can borrow money or get a part time job.

    just some more fyi, even when you get hired on fulltime its not guaranteed
    hours. you could not work at all some weeks....thats just how it is. i talked
    to a couple box drivers that has coworkers go feeder only to sit at home quite
    a bit...these are guys that were with the company some time before they
    became feeders. so for the example above, and this is just hear say but you
    could be a seasonal 6 years maybe get hired on and still barely work for some
    years.

    breaking into this job you either have to have a wife that makes good money
    and is willing to put up with you being called and having to go to work at a
    moments notice, working different shifts all the time. this is probably good for
    the guy that owns his business and can come and go when he wants.

    oh and i seriously doubt the time you put seasonal goes toward your pension
     
  7. Road Hazard

    Road Hazard Bobtail Member

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    You have nothing to apologize for; your comments were correct and direct. bJohn920 is right; as long as companies are allowed to 'create' bankruptcies on paper and abscond with employee pensions then you may as well be prepared. I wouldn't be suprised if the 401k, etc. plans 'collapsed' too...you know what that means.

    :smt100
     
  8. Truck Vet

    Truck Vet <strong>NRA AMA Libertarian</strong>

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    To answer Chasser's question" Why don't we find another job" ? A lot
    of us do. On another post there was a survey, and I found out a
    lot of us have been to 3 or more jobs in the last 2 years (me included).
    All my jobs have been LTL. One route I had I went to most states in
    the eastern US. It seemed like I could never get enough sleep, I was
    driveing a day cab sleeping in bunkrooms or haveing to double up with
    drivers I had never met. One day I shared a room with an angry Muslim
    guy that snored and would pray in the corner. Don't get me wrong
    to each his own it but it was just hard to sleep. When you work
    somwhere that your on the road and tired its hard to get around to
    putting in aplications. Your energy level is not very high. And you
    don't look forward to being 'the new guy'. Some of us may have speeding
    tickets, acidents or some other reason why we wait to switch companies.
    We are just waiting for the right oportunity.
     
  9. THE BEST

    THE BEST Light Load Member

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    UPS----Read the story for yourself. Sure you can make high wages and have great benefits, but you sell yourself. The the story of one 24 veteran . I have a very dear friend who UPS lied to and he left a well paying job to work for UPS and now after 7 months, he is broke. He got one trip last week and this has been the norm. Even during this "peak season" UPS is using "contractors" and the full time drivers are left sitting at home.

    ___________________________________________________________

    On May 13, 2003, Dan O'Shea was discharged from UPS after a 24-year career.

    As you will read in the filed lawsuit, Dan O'Shea was subjected to the normal UPS company policy. Which for many UPSers know, is that to UPS, the only policy they truly have is that "there is no policy."

    Those who work at UPS know that not only does policy change daily, even hourly, many times policy is different for some than for the majority
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    http://www.thedarkersideofbrown.com/
     
  10. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Which division did he work for, the parcel side or the heavy freight side (formerly Overnite Trans)?
     
  11. THE BEST

    THE BEST Light Load Member

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    Which division did he work for, the parcel side or the heavy freight side (formerly Overnite Trans)?
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    He worked for the parcel side. Even this week, the "peak" of the "peak season" he has only gotten 2 days of work. The driver right above him in senority had $16,000 in savings when he started with UPS in May of this year and he has used up all of the $16,000 trying to "stay afloat".

    In my opinion, if you are not single and living at home with mom and dad, you better stay away from UPS parcel side. There isnt no way that a man with obligations can survive there.

    OH, let me mention this. There aint a bit of use to complain to the union. The Teamsters and UPS are "sleeping together".
     
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