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Unusual CDL testing question

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by wcodyd, Dec 30, 2021.

  1. Dec 30, 2021 #1
    wcodyd

    wcodyd Bobtail Member

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    Hi All,
    Let me preface this question by stating I never intend to drive tractor trailers. I want to occasionally help a family member with his business by transporting a mini excavator or skid steer within the county from one job site to another. This would be an infrequent side job. The transport vehicle would be a pickup (half-ton or 3/4 ton) and the trailer would be a 16 ft utility travel rated for 14K pounds. This is a fairly specific application.

    I don’t mind having a no-semi, no air brake, and an automatic transmission restriction on a CDL. I live in Arkansas. The Arkansas CDL page is here: Commercial Driver License (CDL) | Department of Finance and Administration

    My question is what would be an acceptable vehicle/combination for CDL A testing? Suppose I use a Ram 2500 (automatic) with a 14K GVWR dump trailer. The pickup might have a GVWR of only 10K, but since the trailer is over 10K, would that qualify as an acceptable vehicle test combination?

    Thanks in advance…
     
    wcodyd, Dec 30, 2021
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  3. Dec 31, 2021 #2
    feldsforever

    feldsforever Road Train Member

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    Call your local bmv or DMV. That's a state specific question. In some states you will still need the class c or b lisense. Over ten k but under 26k.
     
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    Bean Jr. and tscottme Thank this.
  4. Jan 16, 2022 #3
    dibstr

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    The trailer has to have a GVWR of 10,001 or more and when combined with the GVWR of the truck has to have a GCWR of 26,001 or more. The way you described the truck and trailer, no that would not be acceptable.
     
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  5. Jan 16, 2022 #4
    ZVar

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    Sounds like you don't even need a CDL for that setup. Arkansas looks to follow most other states requirements. Here is a sample flowchart for the requirements to help out. Yes it's for Oklahoma, but Arkansas has the exact same requirements.

    Oklahoma Highway Patrol Troop S - Commercial Driver

    1. a 3/4 ton truck of (I'm guessing) a 10,000 lb gvwr. Most 3/4's are 10k.
    2. A dump trailer with a GVWR of 14K.
    3. That gives a GCWR of 24k.

    Now, to follow the flowchart.
    1. Is it a combo vehicle. - Yes
    2. Does it have a trailer with a GVWR of greater than 10k. - Yes
    3. Is the Combined Weight Rating is greater than 26k - No
    4. Is it a bu or pulling Hazmat. - No
    5. No CDL required.

    P.S. Actually the one in the Arkansas CDL manual is much easier to follow, but still the same answer.
     
    ZVar, Jan 16, 2022
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