Virginia Legal Length

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  1. Sub Marino

    Sub Marino Bobtail Member

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    Hello Everyone!

    I am eyeballing some loads through Virginia on Truckstop, so I called the DOT in Virginia to find out about the permits. I talked to a lady at the oversize, overlength department (or something similar), she told me that you can NOT have anything longer than 65ft on the roads there. My rig is a Coronado with a 48ft spread-axle flatbed trailer, the combination being around 70ft, give or take a foot, depending where the sliding 5th wheel is. This lady gave me a phone number to another department, whom I called and got put on hold for a half an hour, then disconnected. I called again, only to be told by the answering machine that all agents are busy.
    This is the website I was able to google:
    Code of Virginia Code - Article 16. Maximum Vehicle Lengths
    From the kingpin to the rear axle the trailer is 46ft long.
    It seems unbelievable that you can not drive a tractor trailer combination like mine with a spread axle in Virginia.
    Are they using shorter trailers? :)
    Can anyone please shed some light on the matter?

    Thank you.
     
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  3. Powder Joints

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    However, the length of a tractor truck semitrailer combination may exceed 65 feet in length, provided the semitrailer does not exceed 53 feet in length and the distance between the kingpin of the semitrailer and the rearmost axle or a point midway between the rear tandem axles does not exceed 41 feet.

    I'm sure your fine, if your rear axle is 46' as it states midway ( spot between the axles) meets the 41' requirement.
     
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  4. Sub Marino

    Sub Marino Bobtail Member

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    Hello again,

    Talking to multiple people it was established that you need a permit if you exceed 65ft as a combination. I asked the person at the DMV, why exactly is this. Her answer was that the 17 years she worked there it always been the case. It is basically the Virginia way to collect toll. The process is online now, though I needed some help with clarification of the wording, and I had to measure the axle spreads on my combination. It costs $100 per year for a blanket permit, or you can get a trip specific one for $20, if I remember correctly.
    Anyone driving through Virginia and is over 65ft in length needs one. Maybe its a good idea rather then the ticket.

    Have a good day.
     
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  5. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    If your trailer meets the their requirement of 41ft from king pin to center of the rear axles you can be over 65ft. Honestly I don’t think they pay much attention. I ran out there a lot with a 280” wheelbase and a 52ft spread axle cow trailer and never got looked at.
     
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  6. Powder Joints

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    My only question is , Is the middle between your spreads 41' or less. If it is say 42' then I would say yes it needs a permit, but if its 41' or less it clearly is allowed. But your call, as in not my ticket if Im wrong. Goodluck
     
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  7. ElmerFudpucker

    ElmerFudpucker Road Train Member

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    The 65 foot deal is off of STAA routes.
     
  8. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    I run Virginia every week..... most of my IFTA miles every quarter are Virginia and NC. Im 83ft long with a W9 and a 3 axle RGN. I only permit if my annual doesnt cover the dimensions. When I pull on the scales on I-77/95/81/64, none of my trailer axles are even on the scale. Sometimes the woman at the scale on I-77 yells for me to pull up so she can weigh the rear but, its not often. I believe my KP length is roughly 56ft. VA has never bothered me..... of course I stay on the main roads. And like @ElmerFudpucker says, thats only on state routes.

    Edit to add: I guess I should have stated that when im hauling legal dimensions they never bother me...... cause if im permitted obviously I have "permission" to run under the dimensions.
     
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  9. Powder Joints

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    Yea, Cali is like that or used to enforce it, here they have-not bothered me ( at least) when off truck routes, which is fairly frequent. But they used to back in the 80's and 90's.
     
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  10. ElmerFudpucker

    ElmerFudpucker Road Train Member

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    Virginia really only enforces it if you are try to dodge the scale. Other than that you really don’t want to be on state routes. They are skinny and crooked
     
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