Werner compared to C.R. England

Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by Sofia, Jul 21, 2012.

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  1. 48Packard

    48Packard Ol' Two-stop Shag!

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    Don't you dare call John Wayne a metaphor!

    He was born in Iowa!:biggrin_2556:
     
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  3. SkyDriver

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    The way this would work the best is to go industry wide, not just at Werner, a union is only as effective as its membership is strong (ie) number of members. If Werner was to call a strike and no other companies would honor that strike then other (scab) or non-union drivers would just pick up the loads and run with them, then the company would just bust the union. Game over. Either the Teamsters need to start a membership drive or a new organized, industry wide, Truck Drivers Union with a membership of more that 50% of all licensed drivers as members need to form. This is just my opinion but I have been in a union before as a shop steward. You mentioned early in this thread something about R. Reagan busting the Air Traffic Controlers union back in the eighties, that was the beginning of the end for unions. After that, corporations no longer feared or respected unions, thus began the fall of the middle class, and we're still on the way down.


    I'm just saying...Shhhh


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    Easy cowboy, no offence intended, I am a big fan of the Duke.
     
  5. Sofia

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    Totally agreed. Okay. Use your CB's to connect with C.R.E., Werner, and any other drivers from other companies (C.R.E. drivers are starving...and they'll definitely be interested in regional meetings for sure..)....I think it's Channel 19. Regional meetings (for union development) can be organized at charity biker events or other unions are frequently interested in supporting and lending union meeting locations......maybe communicate with NATCA about their success rate....(because the current NATCA - National Air Traffic Controllers Association - is successful with their objectives). Don't go to CWA (Communications Workers of America). CWA is not good enough.
     
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  6. SkyDriver

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    Okay but I need to wait until I get back into my truck on Monday, but lets keep in touch.
     
  7. Jhf

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    I have a serious question.

    With things like electronic logs, gps, the various time laws, governors on max speed....

    Why would any company set an unrealistic arrival time?

    I see the OP has a major problem with this company but I've seen claims like this made of other companies too. I'm in the investigation phase of trucking as a future second career but the idea of being a new driver and right off the bat being pressured to either break laws or maybe be forced into a situation where you can't realistically do a good job (being late from the get go)... in short it sucks.

    Does this actually happen much?

    Seems like the company would lose money by being late all the time and also lose drivers left and right due to tickets and such...
     
  8. Sofia

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    Please understand, I respect your questions; however, your message explains exactly why a Truck Drivers Union should comprise only members with active CDL-A's who are employed by national trucking companies. The circumstances might be hard for you to understand, but truck drivers who are in the middle of the problem understand it completely. When a driver doesn't get paid for a load delivery, but their employer does get paid for that same load delivery; the employer just reduced their quarterly corporate labor costs by not paying the driver....and the driver is literally working for free. Unfortunately, it happens rather frequently and it is usually not the driver's fault. It is a gross manipulation that truck drivers are horribly underpaid. Furthermore, it is even more offensive that drivers are not paid for load deliveries that are completed. Truck drivers should be paid a base salary + (when a driver appropriately documents delayed ETA's) the driver should receive percentage pay of every single delivered load.
     
  9. Jhf

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    True enough, I don't understand the industry...

    I'm just trying to learn by asking questions. Your reply brings more questions than answers in this idea of drivers not getting paid but employers still collecting.

    Are you saying if they construct a load with the intent of you being late you don't get paid (because you were late) but they still get paid for delivering the load?

    I'm pretty sure I've got no interest in becoming part of an arrangement like that. I assumed you get paid xx cents per mile based off of either actual miles or some sort of average miles by zip codes or something. And at worst you arrive at a bad time and are stuck waiting some wasted hours until the place will accept delivery.

    Maybe you lose 10 hours waiting for some place to open up in the am... That sort of thing.

    Yeah, I honestly don't know much about the real world workings of it but I am genuinely interested and this forum being open to curious people like me....you are going to get clueless questions. :biggrin_25524:
     
  10. Sofia

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    In the USA, truck drivers for national companies are usually paid "a few cents per mile." The actual amount a driver gets paid can change at any time. For example, a USA truck driver is in the middle of the Mojave desert without any wireless access (no cell phone/no internet) and in need of truck repairs; when their dispatcher decides truck repairs aren't necessary and refuses to approve a vital delayed ETA. Now, the truck driver is sitting in the middle of the desert with little to no available communications and the only e-message is from their dispatcher who is refusing critical truck repairs and an adjusted delayed ETA. Seriously, when this happened to me, it was very important that I had drinking water on my truck. It was not until the next day, that a different dispatcher approved truck repairs and I could continue driving about 36 hours later....and, I was not paid for the delivered load because Werner did not approve a delayed ETA. Unfortunately, some corrupt trucking companies want to minimize any and all expenses without concern for the safety of their drivers...in these circumstances, it is my opinion, that a Truck Drivers Union would be a very important benefit.
     
  11. Jhf

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    I would not sit in the desert for 36 hours with no water wondering if somebody was going to decide on a time to send anybody out or not. You must have had other options...

    Anyhow, I'm still confused about this no pay thing.

    If you miss an ETA you don't get paid?
     
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