Werner compared to C.R. England

Not at all- I am a twenty-three year experienced otr driver- which you are not making you- by your admission on your profile- an inexperienced tinhorn so where is the insult? Your case against a major carrier so far is all enuendo without documented fact nor hard evidence but only what you claim is truth. You lack both the experience in this industry and, experience with other carriers to substantiate your claims. Based on my experience as a former driver trainer for a major carrier and my time- hard time- in this industry- your unsubstantiated claims ring with nothing more vitriol against a carrier that for what ever reason, did not meet your needs nor you to theirs. Which in itself is not a crime of any proportion.

Had you any real evidence of wrong doing or criminal behavior- assuming you are qualified to recognize such behavior- and laid such evidence into the hands of the appropriate authorities ie the local agency overseeing commercial vehicles or the FMCSA- then such enforcement would have noted in the trucking community as a whole- which if hasn't.

Instead or rather, you have chosen to post those claims here in the likely mistaken belief that you could prosecute this company in the court of public opinion. As to the success of that, there is no substantive measure and one is not possible.

If you pour through these threads, you will notice a great deal of commonality with yours- my company did x or y or z and I xx or yy etc. Most without grounds or real evidence just author hearsay. The disgruntled employee theme against trucking companies probably is what- 80 percent of these threads?

I have been at the outfit I drive for going on 13 years now. And while I can't say all has been sunshine and goodness, I will say that I have been very satisfied to both drive here and stay here. There are, things here I don"t like nor care for of course. There is no such thing as the perfect outfit however, I will never air our dirty laundry- real or imagined, in the public eye. It's just not the right thing to do. Experienced drivers learn to take the good with the bad, the smooth with the potholes and continue to roll on. Whereas inexperienced drivers-a lot like you- try to turn your own issues against the company in an effort to make them look like a monster instead of taking responsibility for own actions or lack of them. Making you immature as well as inexperienced. Because trucking is all about personal initiative and responsibility.

Mark

Apology for technical errors- wrote this on the side of the road waiting for road service. Yet another recap bites the dust.

 

I think a lot of them do stop. There's a high turn over of drivers with them.

 

There's a reason for the high turnover rate. Bottom feeding training companies make money training replacement drivers. If, after training and upon being assigned to a Big truck, they're happy campers and decide to remain with the starter company instead of jumpin' ship and movin' on, it throws a monkey wrench in the works. Bottom feedin' starter companies depend on having empty driver's seats to put their new graduates in. If not enough quit on their own said companies provide incentive, or set 'em up to be fired. A Big truck truck driver's longevity is no longer respected or desired. Those with seniority are considered too expensive to retain as newBees provide cheaper labor.

We've seen the results when there was a "driver shortage", --- companies spent bundles on recruiting and retention and a driver with experience was preferred. Fast forward to today with the glut of out of work applicants who only seek the job out of desperation rather than any real desire. A Big truck truckin' companies dream candidate. One who they can make money training and pay less once they've graduated. Once they begin climbing the pay scale, they're discarded, --- making it necessary to train a replacement.

I read folks wonderin' how such companies remain in business because they think such companies don't know how to run a Big truck truckin' company. Reality is they know exactly what they're doin' and what they're doin' is profitable for them. Companies known for treating their drivers well have gone out of business. Hauling freight provides only so much income, so other means are necessary, --- like training new drivers, leasing equipment to drivers to avoid the headaches associated with maintenance, insurance, and taxes. When turnover rates were around 100% per year we heard companies crying about driver shortages. Now there are companies who have, and depend on, turnover rates of 200% or more. They've learned how to turn a negative into a positive in their favor.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, now is at best the worst time to enter the Big truck truckin' industry.
To those attempting, I wish good luck.

 

You don't have any idea how foolish that sentence sounds do you.

 

i will translate it for you:

"I hope you are well aware that your opinion is of negligible consequence when to the facts of the industry that runs $50,000 equipment."

meet me in politics if you need further assistance

 

I think there are a few kernels of truth in your post, especially in regard to "trainer companies". So consider this, there are many many newbies coming into the system, they have to go somewhere. Better they get weeded out at a company like S---- before a company like mine invests in their training. Costs money to train these people, when they leave before even the first year is over, the company doing the training is out that investment. For us, that cost is a little over 4 grand per driver. I don't even want to know what on-going training and certification in someone like me costs-but it's a lot.

The entire induction and training process is screwed up in my opportunity opinion. There is very little industry oversight over these schools that just keep churning out cannon fodder that we- we the companies are supposed to somehow turn into competent drivers. These schools are nothing more than CDL mills really. Yes-I do know there are some that are actually training their students- few and far inbetween and not enough. Fix this process and a lot of these problems I think will be diminished.

Mark

 

Thks, I wish good luck to you. it's more of a headache in the long run with bigger companies. I got my 1st year OTR in my region after getting out of Werner and CRE. Werner and CRE are "puppy student mills" - they come in and go out real quick. In a smaller company I knew my boss and dispatchers were reliable.