West Coast seven axle configurations.

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  1. kptnt2016

    kptnt2016 Light Load Member

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    I notice that on a west coast 7 axle trailer. (I.e. murray loadmaster) whenever anything is loaded its nearly sitting over the center of the neck of the trailer.

    1. Is this done so that there can be a decent amount of weight on the drive axles of the tractor?

    2. Im pretty sure over a 16 tire trunnion your given 60,000lb.. therefore traillers like a loadmaster with a 60 ton capacity should always be at least 15,000 under the mechanical capacity of the tractor + trailer(jeep/well section)

    Mexhanical capacity
    20S+46D+60J+60T=186,000

    Tare weight
    20k tractor + 27,500trailer combined = 47,500

    Max functional loaded weight
    120,000load +47,500tare = 167,500max loaded weight.

    3. With that said. If you load your load in sucha way where your load weight is sitting entirely on jeep and trailer with that create a negative effect on steering/drivability?

    4. SEPARATELY If you were to load 100k onto this trailer and attempt to move your load with a single frame (5/16") truck with a light front end and/ or moderate capacity drive will it likely damage the truck if you maintain your weights within mechanical limitations on the truck. With a high rear end gear. 4:10
     
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  3. kptnt2016

    kptnt2016 Light Load Member

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    ichudov Heavy Load Member

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    I am guessing that the trailer has a very long neck and that the excavator is sitting with its center of gravity close to the middle between the kingpin and the center of rear axles, but just a little ahead of this center. So more weight is given to the four front axles (drives and jeep).
     
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    truckdad Road Train Member

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    You never had to worry about being over on any group except 6-7. This combination was the answer for moving D-9s in one piece way back when. Mine only had 20'6" of rear deck. They still use them out here but they are "cheating" with 24'+ deck and 10' wide trailers....
     
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    kptnt2016 Light Load Member

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    Would i damage a single frame truck using this configuration?
     
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    truckdad Road Train Member

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    Short answer would be no. With this setup you don't usually get the big weight forward. Are you considering such a combo? This was my 1st truck with the 87 model Loadmaster. Alum frame, SSHD 4.11 on air track. It did a fine job. Again, with MY set-up I don't think I ever got much over 42K on the drives and that was with a D-9H (56 tons) This 988B put 59,800 on axle 6-7 with the loader tires as close as I could get them to the jeep. 988B on 7.jpg
     
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    I will ad that I pulled my 9 axle once with my "hwy speced tractor" and it was very uncomfortable. Nothing better than a heavy set-up.
     
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    Please tell me you have that picture in a frame?
     
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