Western Star 5700 or Volvo 860 for a couple? Comfort

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  1. sbaumann14

    sbaumann14 Road Train Member

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    I had a 780 for 6 yrs with my wife....very user friendly. The table was great, as were the fridge and microwave we put in. Used the upper bunk for storage. The volvo WILL kill u on maintance costs.
    We sold that in April, and bought an 03 FLD with a rebuilt pre emissions series 60 DDEC 4 for $13k (friend was getting out of it). I have no maintaince or downtime to speak of with this truck, and i can fix most everything myself.
    In 2 years,we'll have saved enough to either daycab/stretch this and add a 144.....or we'll sell it, get a daycab and add the 144

    If money will not be an obstacle, go volvo. If you need writeoffs, go volvo. Mine was spected for heavy haul, but one year we spent close to $23000 on repairs. And no, that wasnt a tranny or motor.
     
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  3. Xflstl

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    I cannot say anything about the WS, however my better half and I just bought our 3rd Volvo. It's a 2019 Vnl 860, Globetrotter package. Has the D13 TCXE motor... We have been in it for just at 1 month, 21k miles on it so far. To this point we love it... Average Mpg over the 1st 20k is at 7.9, we run from MN to Ca and back so we hit alot of mountains. We like the ride (Spring front axle) and we are loving the economy of it, saved us nearly 2k in fuel over our previous (2013 Cummins) 780... If your an O/O this is a great option as a truck....
     
  4. Blkcowboy

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  5. Oldironfan

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    Volvo engine is better than Detroit? What facts lead to that opinion? How many D13 engines need injectors every year?
     
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  6. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    While I know it's a different model, this WS 4900 I run had water leaks from new, and the windows fogged up constantly. Once the water leaks got mostly fixed, the windows stopped fogging up.

    I'm not convinced they've corrected the issue at the factory yet on the 4900's, as we've gotten three new ones since I got mine, and they all leak. Just food for thought.
     
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  7. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    Every 150k miles. Does not mean the engine is bad though. My14 also likes to eat injectors
     
  8. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    14 what? Model year?
     
  9. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    My N14 I meant
     
  10. BigHossVolvo

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    Just my 0.02c, but all the reefer companies are switching to Volvo around here. The Injector Cup issue has been figured out, and now the DD15/DD13's are eating turbos and SCR systems. Trying to buy a Clean used 780, or new 760/860 is IMPOSSIBLE! I mean Bison is even switching their reefer fleet to all 760's, for the time sensitive freight over the snub nose Cascadia's with the DD13. All I know, is after 13 Freightliners (slip seat company trucks), 2014 T680 MX13 Auto, 2014 780 D13 Ishift, and 2 Brand New International LT's (X15E and A26 both Autos). I bought a new VNL 760 D13/iShift.
     
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  11. Elroythekid

    Elroythekid Road Train Member

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    How many dd15's go on the hook FOR DEF and Def problems? I had a 780 with the d13. 2013. Sold it at 740k ish and had ZERO injector emission issues. 1 piston cooler sensor when it was new and it wasn't the sensor but the harness. I sold it to stay home with my wife while she has a go with the big C or I would still have it. Best ride, quietest, cabinets are biggest, loved the drawers and the work station. Best interior hands down, and did I say quiet??
    If our dollar wasn't so low and a new one wasn't almost 200k I'd have a new one on order.
    Now that said... I bought a bare bones Columbia glider. Not quiet, not smooth, cabinets suck, BUT..cheapest ruck to repair on the road, hands down.
    I wouldn't have a new Detroit engine. Still too many emission issues. Spend a day at a freightliner dealer in Knoxville couple months ago and it was a steady stream of Crapcadias on hooks coming in. And yes.. I HAD a dd15 a 2011. One year almost bankrupted me. In service and on the hook constantly. HUGE piece of ka....ka.... would NEVER recommend one. My .02c.
     
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