You will go through spurts where you will get more good drivers than you have trucks, other times it will be like now. Last 4 months it's been calls that are cash only because i'm on UMC, Comp or something else. Or those that are so bad the white Volvo crowd thinks twice. 6 months ago all you would get is the LP people. Learn to live with the ups and downs.
What is EXCELLENT pay for experienced company hands?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Midwest Trucker, Aug 6, 2020.
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People running these trucking company don't want to hear the truth also I think. Ask why driver are thinking about quitting. I can make my company sound like a great job or I can tell the truth. If we say anything as drivers I don't think they want to hear it.
My company says drives get home 3 out of 4 weekends. It does not happen or you get home 9pm Saturday and have leave out 7am Monday. I said something about not getting home and the company tells me. Maybe I should not log all the work I'm doing.
It's a red flag to me when I see some say they need "real drivers" that can run 700+ miles a day. I would say that's almost impossible today. Unless your running out west and have a truck that can do 70-75MPH. Back when we had paper log books a Real Driver was code for someone who would run illegal
I can tell you how they dispatch the truck more miles then you can drive. So if a company can't keep drivers, and you already pay pretty good and have good trucks. It's probably because something is wrong and the office people don't want to hear the truth.86scotty, Western flyer and Midwest Trucker Thank this. -
I’ve been driving since April of 97. I’ve done my days of big miles and no sleep running livestock, and even last year ran myself to the point of being burnt out with a food grade pneumatic. Even if I lost my truck tomorrow and had to get a job, I have exactly zero desire to run 700 miles a day. Financially I don’t need to, and simply I don’t want to. I wouldn’t want to run a governed truck for 11 hours, being under the gun to get those miles in.
That being said, I know a FedEx contractor that has a dedicated run, leaves Thursday and they’re back in Sunday night/early Monday morning. Off Monday through Wednesday. He’s paying 72 cents and can’t find a team to do it. I think Old Dominion is around $130k a year for teams, you’ll have to beat wages like that to find the drivers you’re after.tommymonza, Loudstacks, gentleroger and 3 others Thank this. -
Here recently have done some runs to Texas and going to start running to the SW and West with teams. That’s my goal anyway. For the last decade we’ve stayed within about 700 miles of Indy.
So, clearly that is not 700 miles every day.
What I mean is, if you have a load going 650 miles that delivered next day, it’s nice to have confidence that the driver can do it. I can’t tell a customer he will be there and then not be there. That’s not how you keep high end customers. Or, if you have a 1100 mile run and two days to do it, shopper runs behind and takes 3 hours to load. I need to know you can get it there.
It doesn’t mean every load is like that. Many may be 3 to 500 miles too. It’s about what your capable of, not what you can continuously do.
Ive long said that if employees were more ok with pay being reduced, then pay increases would happen much much quicker. You could more follow the market be having to maintain an average.
My company is definitely not what your portraying it to be. I actually care very deeply and remember what it’s like to work for others. Plus, I have longevity in mind at all times. Sounds like you should make a change?
Far as the 700 mile thing, I explained that more above. It’s about what your capable of doing, not what’s expected everyday. Drivers who drive for 3 or 4 hours then take an hour, so on so forth through the day just can’t make it with e logs. Sorry to say but alot of the freight I haul is critical and we also have to stay legal. If you are someone who likes to take their time, probably better to own your own truck and do it on your own time.
I don’t mean to sound too harsh, I don’t overly push people, in fact I don’t push them at all. I only work with runners. They got bills to pay, I got bills to pay.
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The lack of healthcare could be one of the big problems.
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I have not see anything here on what your trucks are governed at ?
Cameras in the truck ? Front and or rear facing?
Forced routing, or forced fuel solution ?
Pay practical, zip code, or hub miles?
All live load, live unload ? Drop and hook ??
Do you have a customer base, or is most of the freight brokered ??
Idling rules? APU ??
Just a few questions and I also sent you a PM as well.
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Good drivers ask first.
Camera in face,
Forced routing,
Forced fuel stops,
No apu,
If the answer is yes to any of them, I'm not working
For you. Don't care what you pay.
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1. 70 mph but I’m thinking for the team or teams I can bring in that run cross country, I’ll set those to 75.
2. No cameras. I have noticed the majority of my drivers have installed their own forward facing and some even mirror cameras. I’ll never install driver facing as that’s not something I would ever be ok with myself.
3. Hub miles
4. 90% live/live. We only drop hook back at the yard if my local support truck has picked up the load ahead of time or if it’s a next day delivery and the local truck will deliver it out of increased efficiency.
5. Oops missed the force routing question. I’m all about common sense. Use the most efficient route unless there is reason to go out of route. Me or my office don’t eagle eye the trucks and check every route. I’d rather have professionals that do what they need to do.
6. Yes, I have customers direct, but also run a lot of broker freight too. Whatever is most efficient and profitable. If it makes sense to broker our customer freight, that’s what I do.
7. Trucks have bunk heaters but not APU’s. If it’s over 70 degrees then idle. If it’s below 15 degrees then idle. Anywhere in between I prefer to shut off and save fuel. I do quarterly safety and fuel mileage bonuses to reward those that stand out above the rest. Again it’s back to common sense and taking care of each other.
8. Not asked but I buy new trucks without the radars on the front. To me, that stuff can be more unsafe then safe. I wouldn’t want it on a truck I was driving so I don’t get it. I’d rather rely on naturally safe drivers who don’t need to be alerted to dangers.
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Hopefully anyone that has read every word I’ve said in this thread sees that I’m more about making money and being efficient. I don’t give two ####s what other companies do.
I do think it’s clear that maybe I should focus on healthcare more the increased pay. So, that’s definitely something I’ve been able to take away from this. The problem I’ve saw is most group plans require a minimum of 15 employees to even think about talking. We tend to hover around 12 or 13 so just not there yet unfortunately. I guess that’s a growing pain of being small and trying to get over that hurdle.Vampire, tommymonza, blacklabel and 2 others Thank this. -
Top hands expect top dollar. After that I want good Benifits. These are things I already have. Why would I switch jobs. Find the answer to that question and your golden.
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70 mph truck being a solo is a safety issue for me. Pack running is dangerous these days. I need to be in a truck that can get me away from them.
It looks like you are doing a lot pf short runs with 700 mile trips. Most of my trips are 2000 to 3000 miles each.
As for brokered freight, it really depends on that. Some brokers onlybhave dencet freight rates because no good driver will go get that freight becuase ship is that bad and is whybthe rate is that high. Been there seen it first hand.
You have my contact info if you want to talk about this.Midwest Trucker Thanks this.
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