I just graduated a very good CDL school in Kingman Arizona a couple days ago. I put in several applications while in school at got pre hires from the following companies. Werner, Swift, USExpress, Watkins and Shepard.
I have eliminated Werner from my choices just due to a LOT of bad things I've read and heard about them. Plus the recruiter that came to our class (a driver with 20 years) just made everything sound TOO good. Ive also eliminated USExpress because I learned that they run mostly automatic transmissions, and if I worked for them for a while and wanted to go somewhere else, Id probably have to take a refresher course. Plus they want you to sign a contract to be a team driver for the first 6 months. And I want to drive solo.
So, that leaves me with two choices. Swift, which I've read a lot of negative stuff, but also a lot of GOOD as well. And Watkins and Shepard, which I've read mostly good things about.
Here lies the dilema. Watkins Shepard has a 10 day orientation, after which you are assigned a truck. No driver trainer or mentor program, which means I could be out making better money a little sooner. Swift has you with a trainer for 6 weeks or so before you get a truck. Also I heard there is a shortage of mentors now and after orientation I could be sitting at home for several weeks waiting for one to call. I live in Las Vegas and will be based out of Phoenix terminal I believe.
I realize CDL school only teaches you the basics to get your CDL. Ive never bumped an actual dock, they didnt teach 90 degree alley dock, we put chains on one time, but it was sunny and 65 degrees that day, the only backing maneuvers we practiced were the ones for the CDL test (Straight Line, Offset, and parallel.) I can do those 3 fairly well. My shifting abilities are very good, in fact the DMV examiner said I was perfect on my shifting and he sees a lot of guys having some troubles with it even during drive test. Heck, I dont even know about truck stop etiquite{sp}. For example I get to a truck stop and there is 3 trucks in a row then 3 open spots then 5 more in a row. I would probably back into that middle open spot to make it easier for me, but the proper thing to do is probably take one of the end spots so the next guy only has to worry about one side of his truck versus two. Of course the last guy there would have to worry about both sides. See my point?
I like the idea of having someone beside me to tell me what to do. Someone to tell me the best way to set up for back into a loading dock. Someone watching over my shoulder so I dont get into a bad situation. Like a bird on my shoulder telling me what I should or shouldnt do. Problem is, Ive heard some bad stories about bad trainers that are just in it for the extra money. And the idea of living in their truck for 6 weeks is a little daunting as well. Ive also talked to a lot of guys at WS that say you figure these things out as you go and that if you can handle and work out problems on your own that I will be fine. I can drive the truck forward very well, its the backing up that worries me.
If you were in my situation, what would you do? I know Swift is a big company and I will probably be treated like a number (no big deal to me) WS is a smaller company and it seems more like a family. But they seem to think that after 10 day orientation I will be able to handle the job. Im just not sure. Also winter is blowing in early and hard in most parts of the country thats a factor to consider. Im really confused on which way to go. Any advice from you Swift drivers?![]()
What to do? Your advice
Discussion in 'Swift' started by Jbrake1960, Dec 19, 2010.
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I would go to work for the company that actually hired me (and I did). Keep putting applications in until you get a bite. W/S is a good company but just because you want to work there doesn't mean they want you to work there.
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Well, I can tell you this, I just went solo after my mentor time. I couldn't imagine trying this without that mentor time. IF they sent me out straight from orientation it would have been a disaster. It's not the actualy driving the truck that the problem comes from, It's all the admin stuff that goes along with driving that you must learn.
But maybe that 10 day orientation teaches you that stuff. Really I'm having a bad time this weekend, but all in all I like swift, I like that they are understanding that rookie drivers make mistakes, and wont fire you the minute you do.chompi, TxStoke and just lil me Thank this. -
If you feel you need a mentor, go to a company that has one. There's no shame or disgrace to it.just lil me and Panhandle flash Thank this. -
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The worst time to be a driver is when your new. You are deserving of respect for the commitment you've made, but in this industry, most larger companies will not give it but rather take advantage of you.
If my advise has anything you can glean IMO would be....be committed to yourself to gain experience. This means you'll be on the road a lot making probably bear bones wages. After a year you'll be in control of how your treated & respected at this point.
Don't be Superman and run grossly illegal with hours. Don't speed at anytime, always honor posted limit on highways, city, construction. Keep your logbook current anytime your rolling. Remember your license is your tool. You put any marks on it, you go back to step one when it comes to being respected & not ##### on in this industry.
You know your financial situation & the time you have to play the initial game of getting through orientation, mentor scenarios to getting assigned a truck. Good luck & remember to stay committed to YOUR GOALS. -
Personally, I think you'd be better off taking some time with a mentor. The extra six weeks will be paid, but with Swift's new hours driving, I'm not sure of the amount of pay. Back in my day it was $450/wk weeks 1-4 and $500/wk on weeks 5-6. So let's look at the positives and negatives.
Swift: 6 weeks of training with a mentor to help correct any difficulties you may have. Backing, Qualcomm use, company policies, chaining, route planning, Fueling procedures, Log books, DOT inspections, Trucker talk (lingo), ways to save money...the list goes on and on. These are small things, but doing them the wrong way can cost you either time or cash.
W/S: 10 day orientaion, no pay. Get to start driving right away IF you pass a driving test at the terminal. No ones gonna give you a $100,000 truck + load without checking your skills. Say you pass, Great!. Now you have to figure out all that stuff meantioned above on your own if solo, or figure out how to live with a stranger if teamed. Are they gonna put you in a solo rig right off the bat? How many hours will you lose if your called in for corrective training like log book classes?
Swift: you know when the "team" (mentoring) ends. W/S: Maybe 6 weeks, maybe 6 months till they get you in a solo rig.
W/S may be a shortcut to getting on the road, but it may cost you in the long run.
Either company, I'd recomend rolling with a more experienced driver for a time. Look carefully at what each company uses for a training plan for new drivers. Which company will be more likely to have the freight to keep you rolling after training? Which one has a terminal near your house, or has traffic lanes past your house? Which one has a better maintained fleet? Then choose your path.
If I were choosing as a newbie, I'd pick Swift and move on after a year if I felt I needed to. But that is after I've answered the above questions from my own perspective. Your answer may be different.
I hope I've helped a bit. Best of luck and see ya on the road.
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However, one must decide whether or not he can handle things solo from the get go. Some can and are doing it. Some can't and there's nothing wrong with that. Just a choice you have to make.
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