What us your opinion over horsepower? 500 v 455

There is one kind of human not equipped with humor.

Insurance representatives. One fine day before the dead of winter we were shooting the breeze outside over lunch. This Insurance drone sat still working on her sandwiches. One driver noticed. He launched into a lunch counter hyperbole full of funny for those who know all about trucking. Had all of us on the ground with his story telling.

Insurance type girl sat still like statue.

Whats Matta? "You all"

"Us?"

Do you realize how expensive this story has cost the insurance company should your boss had decided to file a claim?

That took care of the fun and games rest of that afternoon. Took it right out of everything. Clouded it all over and 5 inches of snow by dinner.

Such a Drip.

To this day I have wondered how to dyou make a Insurance Person laugh? Not the giggle or valley girl BS, but actual tear flowing healing laugher?

 

When your buying one truck, an additional $400-1000 isnt that big of a deal. But it sure is when you order 50-200 trucks at a time.
Same reason fleets stretch oil changes out to 40-60,000 miles. At $300 a pop times 1000 trucks ($300,000) trucks they can afford to lose an engine here and there.

 

Listen to what james said and go re read it again.

Snake oil, this down speeding trend. Tank to tank calculation is 6.1 sometimes high as 6.5 with tall 24.5 and 4.42 18sp, 65mph is 1600 right in the sweet spot for the E-7

The 93 rarely drops below 7. When it was a stock 350 it didn't get out of the 5s

 

Fleet trucks don’t suck because of their hp ratings, it’s because they spec them with the cheaper end lower transmissions that won’t take more than 1650tq and then they spec them at 1450-1650tq.. a 450hp truck with 1850tq is more than adequate for most applications.. These new trucks are producing tq at a lower end of the rpm vs hp in the higher end.. I’ll take a 450hp 1850tq truck over a 500hp 1650tq Truck any day of the week

 

I ran that truck in every state except Hawaii and maine, but talking about up north.
To be honest I have a T8with a ddec 4 500, I don't know what torque, but it has a 10 spd autoshift too.
That 10 speed has a lower first gear, and while it will not pull with my cat, but will start off with a big load easier.

 

Fleet trucks suck no matter what engine and transmission you put in them.
That's so the drivers don't waste fuel, drive the crap out of them or destroy them.

In the late 90's I ran a few trips for an old friend who owned a fleet of 20 trucks that pulled reefers, ten KW's and ten Petes, all were specced the same.
3406E Cats @ 550 HP, 13 spd transmissions, 3:25 diffs and 22.5 low pros.

The fleet average was 6.7 mpg US because he had the software and ability to program the engines for every single gear and the drivers didn't have a choice.
All the trucks were governed at 68 mph in the both top gears, the lower gears had a limits of 1100 to 1200 RPM and the highest engine speed in any gear was 1500 RPM.

These trucks would run 90 to 100 MPH flat out if they weren't limited.
You just don't put any driver off the street in a truck like that and expect them to make money for you.

 

Messed up, sorry.

 

Messed up, sorry agin.