When to say when?

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  1. J.S.

    J.S. Medium Load Member

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    Mornin guys! I’m opera ting a 2019 Volvo 780 with a million miles on the engine. It just got out of the shop and I was told it needed a new 5th wheel top plate. When coupled and off on while tug testing it feels like the couple slips forward a bit which feels like I am sliding the fifth wheel. I’m just trying to gauge how much time I have left on it before failure of some sorts; and/or what I should look for that can be an indicator. Any advise is appreciated, thx!
     
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  3. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    If you keep running it like that and it doesn’t fail you’ll be replacing the top plate and the trailer king pin. Every time the jaws slam into the kingpin when you take off it’s causing wear on both parts. Probably cheaper to replace the 5th wheel top plate now. Replacing the whole thing isn’t much more than trying to rebuild what you have.
     
  4. PSM379

    PSM379 Heavy Load Member

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    Top plate is cheap, and at most even if pins are seized few hour job at max. Did my last 1 in under 2 hours by myself. Including clean up time.
     
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  5. J.S.

    J.S. Medium Load Member

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    Yes that happens as well but not often. I explained it incorrectly. What I meant was that when coupling after the jaws lock, and if I continue in reverse the kingpin will squeeze forward a little more. I’ve never gotten that feeling when coupling. Thx!
     
  6. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    Replace it now and all your worries go away.
    Very simple.
     
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    Well, don't panic, the shop is just padding their arse, for a 2019 truck, even with a million miles, seems a bit early for a 5th wheel. I know, it seems like a lot of movement there, but it's only maybe 1/2 inch, just feels bad. I drove Macks with 5th wheels so worn, at a stop, I had to pull the Johnny bar, and let the clutch out to take up the slack. I drove that truck like that for a couple years. If you are that concerned, lots of wrecked trucks sitting with perfectly good 5th wheels. 2 side pins, and voila.
     
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  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Get a 2nd opinion. If the 2nd opinion confirms the need for the part replace it that day. Can you imagine sitting in court after a trailer leaves the truck and kills someone. "I thought I could drive a few more days/weeks with that known problem."
     
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  9. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Takeyour time, whats the worst that could happen, failure going down the road, maybe dropping a trailer, killing a family, yeah, no rush, take your time. Same with your brakes, wait for the sparks and the squeal....
     
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  10. J.S.

    J.S. Medium Load Member

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    I noticed today that when I hit the brakes the kingpin moves forward almost every time. Would y’all consider that excessive. Forward and backward play. I don’t remember if I ever had as much forward play?
     
  11. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Yes. And like I said before any play wears on the other components, like the king pin. Probably not a big deal if you drop and hook, but 5th wheel play with a dedicated trailer will mean eventually replacing the pin too. A new top plate is less than $2k, not much more than a rebuild kit and labor.
     
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