when to use trailer handbrake?

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  1. Freebird135

    Freebird135 Road Train Member

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    this is really a matter of going by the book vs. experience

    the CDL book says never use the trailer handbrake except for to test the trailer brakes

    but i asked a driver who has been driving for over 20 years and he said he uses it when stopping at stoplights to stop the trailer

    help?
     
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  3. panhandlepat

    panhandlepat Road Train Member

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    good for sliding tandems too.
     
  4. jeepkid7998

    jeepkid7998 Light Load Member

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    All i have ever used it for was pre/post trips and testing the 5th wheel and trailer breaks. Thats how i was taught in trucking school and how i was trained.
     
  5. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    How about this situation:

    You are going down the road and suddenly a 4-wheeler cuts you off....you see the rear axle of your trailer trying to become the front....instead of continuing to jam on the brakes...which will result in a jackknife.....pull the trolley and just brake the trailer.... The forward motion of the tractor combined with the braking action on the trailer will straighten you out....it's a matter of physics.....
     
  6. panhandlepat

    panhandlepat Road Train Member

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    makes perfect sense. why they teach NEVER to use the trolly to control a skid is beyond me. unless they consider that "advanced technique" not suitable to teach qa new driver :confused:
     
  7. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    That's just like the B.S. that you should always double-clutch....
    Never "blind-back" and yes.....You can use the Engine retarder in rain, snow and even ice if you use it wisely.....

    I wish there was a skid pan close by that drivers could use to master all sorts of techniques like roll-over prevention ect...
    When I was learning how to run end-dumps....this older driver had me raise the bed up and drive around in the yard over the potholes, over skids... to get to the point where my A-z-z would start to pucker....
    Drivers need to learn respect not fear.... of the equipment...
     
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  8. Truck Driver

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    I hate the spring loaded ones that are often in the newer trucks. The ones that don't fight you and stay where you put them are more useful to me. Its difficult to apply light, steady pressure with a spring loaded johnson bar when your bouncing around the cab all it wants to do is get away from you.
     
  9. Freebird135

    Freebird135 Road Train Member

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    seems to make sense to me....the book even specifically says not to do this

    this is an exact quote out of the book, im gonna type exactly what it says here:

    "The trailer hand valve (also called the trolley valve or Johnson Bar) works the trailer brakes. The trailer hand valve should be used only to test the trailer brakes. Do not use it in driving because of the danger of making the trailer skid."

    and this is from another section under Prevent Trailer Skids

    "(if trailer wheels lock up) Release the brakes to get traction back. Do not use the trailer hand brake to straighten out the rig"
     
  10. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    Think about it...Your trailer starts to get away from you...If you continue to apply all the brakes...The action of stopping the tractor doesn't guarantee the trailer will stop in-line with the tractor.

    If you apply a pulling force on the trailer with the tractor and brake the trailer...the tractor will pull the trailer straight..

    The best way to prevent a jack knife is to drive (or not to drive) for the conditions...
    After awhile...you'll get the feeling for driving in snow and ice and know when it's time to pull-over and wait it out.

    You can drive in icy conditions....but what about the other drivers???
    If you have to pull off in a area other than a rest stop or a truck stop...pull-off as far as you can from the highway.....

    Like one time the 80 out of Rawlins was iced....I couldn't pull-in to the rest stop since it was full..so I kept a slow and steady pace...passed up all of the Fed-Ex single-props that were sliding or just "spinning" trying to climb up the grade near the rest stop...and found the truck parking down the grade about 5 miles out.
    I pulled into the right hand side and in about the middle. So during the rest of the night when all of the "Super Truckers" were still out and about...I had protection from the trucks parked near the highway side and the trucks behind me....

    Loads btw get paid for delivery and being intact....a load that's laying in a ditch isn't doing anybody any good....
     
  11. lostNfound

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    My truck ... company trailer. :biggrin_255:
     
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