Eld malfunction, driver goes on paper logs. The trip ends . Driver turns in the paper log. Who is responsible to edit the electronic log that the driver has logged it on paper? Driver did exactly what he was required to do, ELD malfunctioned, driver went on paper and turned the paper log into safety. Who is "under the gun" to go back and show how driver got from point A to point B on the ELD ??
Who is Responsible?
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Grouch, Jul 9, 2023.
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The driver is responsible make sure you get a case number and they tell you to go paperless. It is your job after to make it match up after everything on the eld to match. Even if it's company it's some responsibility your the one who would have a ticket that damages your cdl not the company.
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It happens, and the driver can't edit driving events or add them back in.
Another thing that happens in operations where truck assignments are fluid is that people who have exemptions don't log trips that are exempt, and the ELD company tries to assign the driving to anyone who has logged driving in that unit, which must be rejected if not correct. -
So much for all the time saved by not having to do it on paper.
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:Lets say he runs from Charlotte, NC to Atlanta, Ga on paper, he gets to Atlanta,he switches tractors. He logs in and for the time from Charlotte to Atlanta the truck he is in now the ELD is fine, but this ELD has no knowledge of trip down to Atlanta, it shows him off duty. Last log out was in Charlotte, so how to you explain, you got from Charlotte t
I hope I made it clear.Last edited: Jul 10, 2023
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We had one kind, and switched to another kind, but not everyone was OK with the switch so we had 2 different ones being used for awhile.
Not good at all.
To answer the above, you should be able to log on duty, with notation that a paper log was used in lieu of the ELD. The paper log must also be noted if used in place of the ELD. I put ELD malfunction in the notes. -
Now that is what the regulations require, not necessarily the best practices. Personally I would edit the eld to match the paper logs, and shred the paper so everything on eld is accurate. That's me though and not what the regulations require. As such the original question of who is responsible is moot, as neither are responsible. -
Seems like to me if the ELD fails, you just log paper logbook until you get if fixed or in another truck that has working ELD. The drive would turn in the paper logs and the company would just keep the paper copies just like used to if anyone wanted to see them.
We ran paper log book and ELD the first week we switched to ELDs in case we got stopped by DOT. They both had to match but the paper log book was basically proof of what we did the week before and the week driving as we switched to ELD. You would no go back and try to fix what the ELD said if it was not working properly. -
The company I was leased to would update the information to the ELD along with a notation off the paper log.
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