Wholesale Truck and Finance defective equipment

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Tony Nelson, Mar 8, 2021.

  1. Tony Nelson

    Tony Nelson Bobtail Member

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    If any drivers O/OPs have purchased a truck from Wholesale Truck and Finance please contact me ASAP, if your truck has had excessive breakdowns you need to contact me immediately if you want to be compensated for defective equipment. Thank you and it's not your fault, I'm here to help because I too have been cheated.
     
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  3. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Just an FYI, if you are a lawyer or soliciting for a lawyer, you have to disclose that.

    also if you read anything on this site, always do your due diligence, this means don’t go blindly into buying a truck, a truck is a tool - not a car.
     
  4. GoneButNotForgotten

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    Just the name of the company scares me a little. Kind of reminds me of the predatory crappy used car lots that advertise with "Buy Here-Finance Here" signs.
     
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  5. PoleCrusher

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    Isn't this that place in Gulfport thats been ripping starry eyed drivers off for years?

    Two seconds worth of due diligence is all it would have took to tell you to avoid them.

    BTW, they've been sued before, all they do is declare bankruptcy, and open back up a couple weeks later under a different name. I think this is like the 5th or 6th name they've had.
     
  6. shooter19802003

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    Kinda like that place in ohio.
     
  7. GoneButNotForgotten

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    In short the company name is "WTF". That should be some sort of red flag for a buyer.
     
  8. PoleCrusher

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    LOL good catch!

    Maybe we should start a pool on what their next name will be. Think ill bid on "Wholesale Global Truck Finance Unlimited".
     
  9. Old Man

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    Go to any used truck dealer, say they have 25 matching units from one fleet. when all are sold some will be the best trucks ever, most will be average , then there will be some real dogs. Dealers doesn’t know, but will tell you they are all great.
    you do your do diligence and hope you pick good. probably says no warranty 5 places in the paperwork.
    Good luck
    All used dealers have trucks detailed and tires matched up to hide alignment problems, you need to see the trucks before they get cleaned up.
     
  10. Vampire

    Vampire Light Load Member

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    ^This.

    If you know a mechanic, it helps tremendously. I once had a mechanic set the timing over the phone for me on one of my cars when I did the engine and transmission over. Some of them really know their stuff.

    Look for cheap spray jobs on the engine and frame, avoid those BS aftermarket warranties, get a rig dig report, ECM dump, oil analysis and so on. I once seen a KW for sale where they even sprayed the inner rubber. Even the zirc fittings were sprayed over. IF they couldn't take the time to prep it, what in the hell else didn't they take the time to fix and what else were they hiding?

    I hate seeing people being taken advantage of. May Karma meet them real soon. Good luck.
     
  11. Super-Trucker

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    I live in Louisiana and know the place you are talking about. Wholesale Truck and Finance is a different animal though. I bought my truck from them back in December of 2015. When searching for options for a first time buyer they came up as an alternative. The loan was structured as a lease so your payments could be tax deductible. Here’s how it went:

    2012 Kenworth T-660 MX-13 455 HP 10 Speed with APU.
    Mileage was just below 380,000 miles.
    $3,000 down payment.
    $1,599.64 a month for 48 months.
    $3,000 to keep the truck at the end.
    Got the title no problem.

    They were structured a bit differently than most places. They didn’t have, per say, a lot or dealership but would have trucks in different states and at different dealerships and they were offered as a financing/purchasing option when you went and talked to the salesman. I stopped at Texas Truck Sales on I-610 in Houston and the salesman mentioned them to me. That’s how I found out about them. You couldn’t just finance any truck on the lot though; they had several trucks at this dealership that belonged to them and those were your options. Went on their website and saw they had other trucks in other states. Ended up choosing mine because of the lower miles and better overall condition of the truck as compared to others. Most of their trucks were in the 500,000 and 600,000 mile range. Being a first time buyer that scared me.

    Flew into Kansas City, MO to pick up the truck at their location in Lee’s Summit, MO. Upon arrival I got worried. This was a shop in a dirt lot with country mechanics if you know what I mean. They can be great don’t get me wrong but the appearance of the place wasn’t reassuring. Especially when dealing with emissions trucks. Went over the truck and it turned out to be a fleet truck from a reefer company in Oklahoma called Rains And Sons. They had told me the truck would have “real tires” but no; all brand new recaps all around.

    After some hesitation decided to take the truck (this was December 23rd, and I had just gotten married on the 6th, gotten back from the honeymoon and needed to be home from Christmas....know what I mean jellybean?)

    About two hours down the road check engine light came on. Turned out to be emissions related, truck got fixed at KW of New Orleans, and after some haggling with WTF they paid for the repairs. I still have the truck, not looking as sharp anymore, it’s up to 778,500 miles headed to Lufkin, TX from Quincy, MA. Over the years maintenance has been what you would expect from an emissions truck:

    Two egr valves, second set of Nox sensors, bpv valve, an engine harness, and then your usual tires, brakes and the like. Apu.....have spent more fixing it than the savings from it I believe. Use a gallon of Lucas in every oil change and it doesn’t burn any oil between changes. No oil leaks. (That’s the beauty of the Paccar: not mighty like the Cummins, but it will last much longer).

    Overall my experience was not the worst, but when the truck went down I was able to jump in a company truck and keep running to stay afloat, so I never missed a payment. That option may be available at some carriers when you lease on to them, and not having it, I am certain would have sunk me while dealing with breakdowns. I believe the truck had been maintained by Rains and Sons. This may have been an MHC truck I believe. So overall I believe I didn’t choose the worst from the lot. Whenever I called the ladies to inquire about something everyone was always professional. But then again I wasn’t calling for extensions on deadlines or because the truck had this and that issue. When I bought the truck they didn’t have the warranty option that I believe they now offer so it was on me. Can’t comment on whether that is any good or not. Having said that, I have read their reviews and I know that many peoples’ experience has been different. As always this is a roll of the dice and I didn’t have a dyno done or anything when buying the truck. I pretty much just eyeballed it. But then again it’s not a Cascadia or a Prostar and I see them on the shoulder pretty much every day.

    Knowing then what I know now would I do it again? Absolutely not. This was a too expensive option to purchase a truck. I would have gotten a much cheaper and more reliable pre-emissions truck, but being a first time buyer my options were limited and I was afraid of the higher miles and possible breakdowns.

    People only tend to post reviews when they have a negative experience and from some of the truck inventory I saw I am certain many people have had them. Due diligence is important as well as the hand of the good Lord helping you out a bit. Just posting the unvarnished truth here for anyone looking at them to purchase a truck from. It can go good and it can go bad I’m sure. Best option: save and pay cash.
     
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