Why are city drivers always grouchy?

Discussion in 'LTL and Local Delivery Trucking Forum' started by MACK E-6, Aug 15, 2020.

  1. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I’ve seen that question asked here a few times. “Why are city drivers always grouchy”, usually from those who have never done the job and don’t have a clue. Well, there a couple reasons for that.

    First on the list we have politics and favoritism.

    It’s a common saying in this business that in any terminal, 80% of the work is done by 20% of the drivers. From where I sit that’s a sign of bad management for allowing that to go on. The 20%’ers want to get their work done and go home, while the 80%’ers lay down all day. Who the hell wants to do somebody else’s pickups after 20 deliveries plus 5 pickups on their own run?

    Some planners also feel the need to slow down the productive drivers because they make the non-productive look too bad, placing the TM in the uncomfortable position of possibly having to enforce standards against those whom he would seriously rather not.

    Then there’s Saturday work, which at my terminal is a very sore subject. They put up a sign-up sheet at the beginning of the week, only to give the runs to whoever they want anyway.

    Another thing is the classic “pass the buck” scenario with damages perpetrated by the dock idiots. One thing that will get a good driver pissed in a hurry is returns, especially when they’re early in the run, oversize, or loose.

    Construction sites tend to be another thorn in a driver’s side. You’d be amazed how people scatter and run when a truck shows up, terrified of the possibility of having to work.

    If you encounter a driver who seems like a prick, the chances are good he’s one of the 20%’ers.
     
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  3. 201

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    Great post, couldn't have said it better. I,,,was a local driver for most of my career. It's my firm belief, drivers do OTR because they can't handle the stress of a local job.( and visa versa) I had a family and a house, and hobbies, so a local job was my only option, I HAD to put up with it. Anytime you HAVE to do something, crabbiness will occur. It's the classic "crap rolls downhill" syndrome, and doing the same thing almost daily, any delay is sure to be noticed, and being paid by the hour, generally, the company "bean counter" ( bosses nephew) gets it back to the boss. I never heard of "slowing down the productive" employees, you never hear of that, just blasting the less productive ones, sometimes publicly. Once, in a company meeting of drivers, oh, I HATED those, we'd slip seat sometimes, and the boss called out the regular driver of a truck I used, "why does "semi" get 2 mpg more than you"? That didn't go over well with the regular driver.:angry4: There's a saying in the machine shop world. There are 2 employees, when the dismissal bell rings, the good employee will finish the part they are working on, while the schmoe takes off. I, in the trucking world, was the guy that finished the part. As for Sat. work, NEVER!. My home time was worth much more. I figured, if you didn't make it in 5 days, in 6, you're going to give most to the govt. My kids soccer game was worth a lot more than that
     
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  4. nmill

    nmill Light Load Member

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    I've been p&d for 2 yrs now and all those things ring true. But we're a smaller barn so I think a lot of stuff isn't amplified as much as a bigger one. One thing though- a lot of guys that have been here a real long time seem to just be bored and want to start drama over the littlest things! But a lot of them are retiring so I've been working up the list and soon I'll have the honor of being the King Crab!
     
  5. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Freight collect shipments are always nice. Those are another thing that have made me cynical over the years. What kind of an idiot thinks the receiver at a power plant will pay with a check?
     
  6. nmill

    nmill Light Load Member

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    I used to work at pepsi with a side loader we had lots of smaller customers paying cash. When we had safety meetings I always brought up how we brought back thousands of dollars in cash ( with no safe in the truck) and they always brushed it aside. Eventually we did switch to charge or check only.

    P&d wise I've only ever collected a check a few times. We held frieght yesterday for non-payment.
     
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  7. LTL Bull

    LTL Bull Road Train Member

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    Well said Mack. Prime reason I left R&L after 8 years. Just didn't want to put up with the drama anymore. I've posted pics of how I racked and stacked to accommodate shippers and never squawked to dispatch when I got bounced at the end of the day to grab freight in someone else's area. I was highly productive. I liked the actual WORK it was the WORKING ENVIRONMENT that burned me out. The stress didn't bother me it was watching the slackers so 50-75% of what I did then they'd cry about it to SCM and not be held to the same standards the rest of us were. That and residential deliveries. They had been increasing over the entire time I did P&D but towards the end they'd be 20-25% of my day. Got tired showing up with a 700 lb gun safe and having to explain why I wasn't putting it in the third room down the hall
     
  8. Gdog66223

    Gdog66223 Road Train Member

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    I worked for ABC Supply downtown Knoxville, TN in 2011 and It was a constant drama scene between drivers fighting over which truck to take for that morning. We switched trucks a lot and If the truck wasn't up to par for that driver he would run into the office and tell on me and I would get my butt chewed. The management team had their favorites of who they sent where and I usually got stuck with the tight cul de sac runs with a Tractor/Trailer.

    Then when I went to actually deliver products to peoples homes they would call in and say that the shingles were going to get wet and I didn't cover them up. Just a bunch of BS and OTR is so much easier and less stressful.
     
  9. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Maybe it's just where I run at, but I've found that the residentials, if you can get to it, are usually less trouble than the hotels, restaurants, and retail crap.
     
  10. bzinger

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    When I was an Alliant driver years ago I was an extra driver always doing different routes and I would blow thru them as fast as possible cause I just wanted to go home .
    This irked the clock suckers that would run routes and hide the rest of the day .
    I didn't work there very long .
     
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  11. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    I have worked for several local companies that are exactly that way, first thing was you only took 7 hours on that run, it should have taken 10 hours, you must be unsafe, and making the others look bad. Pepsi can kiss it, there drivers are the biggest slackers I have worked with in many years.
     
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