Why no uniformity in laws, state to state?

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  1. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    You're popular in different states for different reasons...or it could be that you are a "rolling ATM" and each state has its different ways of withdrawal.
     
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    Sounds more like the rolling ATM theory to me depending on how much tint is on the windows, and how far back the mudflaps are from the tires under NHTSA and FMCSA standards. Re. straight stacks; most only meet federal noise emission standards at idle.....too many decibels. Straight stacks used to be for owners who couldn't afford new mufflers and the drag strip. And most inspection stations don't have the equipment to test the db level to issue noise emission citations.

    It may be you've also been given a green light because quotas have been met B-4 you arrived.
     
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    So the saying is true, Every dog will have his day. lol. On a side note, chrysler builds crap overpriced vehicles that get horrible gas mileage that nobody in there right mind would by. MO
     
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    The last decent Chrysler I owned was a 72 Cordoba with a big block & 727 Transmission with factory t-tops. But their bodies were junk. That car was more fender skins & Bondo than metal but run...........boy would it.

    My wife has a mini-van now with a 7-year, 100,000 mile warranty, & it's been in the shop for recalls 6 times and some of those are to fix the equipment installed as the result of the recall.

    Their ceramic brake pads only last about 35,000 miles & Chrysler dealers say that's a lot of miles for the pads. I once sent a message to that deal when Daimler owned them, "Ask Dr. Z", Dr. Deiter Zetche about those pads. He stated he couldn't believe that and would look into it. I never heard another thing!!!!!! I finally gave up & put old fashioned pads on them. They might leave a mess on the tires & hubcaps, but at least they last longer.

    My 04 Grand Am (the last year for that model) pads lasted to 70,000 miles B-4 I changed them this past winter. I'm still waiting to change the shoes.
     
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    kudos on the cordoba. if i remember correctly that was one ugly beast but ran like there was no tomorrow. I used to have a '68 Rivieria w/ a 430 under the hood when i was in the military. Thing was a whale on land and got god aweful gas mileage but once it got going it would just fly.
     
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    But it didn't have "Rich Corinthian Leather"...........just plain old light brown cloth buckets. Actually I thought it nice looking. I re-painted it with a 1978 Chrysler special edition brown (base coat, clear coat). I put lots of silver flake it the first clear coat & then 7 clears on top of that. Made it look about 2 feet deep.

    But that big block couldn't beat my 65 GOAT
     
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    Probably not. It was all stock. I had it more for show and sound. I used to take it to car shows . It was al original down to the working radio. I had all the up to date toys in the trunk and under the dask held on by magnets so i wouldn't de value the car.
     
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    I agree to some point. I am a state enforcement officer and in my state the CMV laws mirror the federal regs. However, some states that surround mine, i.e. commonwealth state, does not. Like when I stop and F-450, 19,000 GVWR, and the driver states I don't need a medical card because I'm under 26,000 lbs. Ol' contrare. "Well my state says I don't need it." Well true, if you stay in your state, you probably don't, but when you hit the state line you fall under the federal regs which are the regulations of my state. I have not a clue why all states don't mirror federal law. Would make for a lot less confusion with drivers.

    The other big confusion is weights. Granted most states are the same but states like Virginia allow you to slide the axle one time, and give no tolerance. Other states write you for what you are at the time of the weighing but give 1,000 lb tolerance. I'm told by driver's, whether or not I can believe them is one thing-they usually lie, deny and accuse, so I have to take it with a grain of salt, that Florida does not have a axle weight limit as long as you don't go over gross. Haven't been able to confirm that one yet. I've seen the Virginia one numerous times.

    There's no real answer that can alleviate this except for the federal regs. be mandated by all states, kind of like the .08 Blood alcohol limit has been implimented, by withholding federal highway dollars to state's that don't adopt the rules. You withhold millions of highway$$$$$ from states you will watch them jump and ask how high.
     
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    This old, retired federal DOT official wishes to know how anyone, especially an enforcement officer, could claim that a lowly commonwealth such as Virginia could be considered a state?.........lol

    Over and above I do seem to remember that FL did not restrict on axle weights, but merely gross weight. I also believe that it was changed sometime after I retired but that could be incorrect.

    Notwithstanding your above statement, this would be acceptable and I agree. The problem however is as I stated in earlier posts here that some states fail miserably in their training (see my other posts in this thread alone), especially on Haz Mat, and many times state inspectors use intrastate rules on interstate vehicles/drivers.

    A few years ago a retired friend of mine and I contracted with a mid western state's commerce commission to go through their haz mat Regs and apply them to their CDL license/testing requirements. In that area alone we found 126 mistakes of which the state only corrected 83. Another friend, who got us the job, who still works for that state's DOT is still attempting to get the rest fixed and this has been for a number of years now.

    I must also question how a CDL holder is able to learn the data properly? Or if he/she has learned properly, it must be a bear (no pun intended) attempting to remember which answers on the renewal written test should be answered incorrectly in order to pass the test.
     
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  10. TruckrsWife

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    I don't think it's because they "put up with it", it's a matter of keeping their jobs and/or not knowing they have a legitimate and protected avenue of recourse if they see some injustice going on. My hubby did have the courage and his company terminated him and totally ruined his ability to find gainful employment to provide for his family (DAC report). This is why so many do keep their mouths shut and just do their job, because they want to continue working. It took him a month and a half to find a job at half of what he was making and he's been driving for 15 yrs. Me thinks I said too much again.