Why ticket the driver

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by magnum force, Oct 5, 2010.

  1. walstib

    walstib Darkstar

    A see this as in "he did things right"?...What could they say that could hurt you?...Educate me please as that doesn't make sense to me...

    And like I said, I'd rather get fired for doing things right than for getting caught with a fudged book and possibly hurting my chances of getting another job...
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

    13,081
    45,321
    Nov 18, 2008
    CA...gold discovery foothills
    0
    I thought I saw that somewhere. Thanks for the directions driver....nice pic!...but I still prefer Diane Lane...even if she is a liberal who supports "Moveon.org"...but I will forgive her IF she asks nicely!
     
  4. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

    19,726
    18,722
    Apr 18, 2010
    Tennessee
    0
    Called an EOBR. Electronic on Board Recorder, which records everytime the truck moves among many other things.
    It's been in the test stage and very soon, will be in all trucks.
    It'll not only make the truckers honest but the companies and shippers will have to comply because the truckers can't play their games anymore.

    Truckers small pay will be cut, loads will be late, and the whole industry will have to rethink how they operate.

    I'm all for running legal. Illegal pays no extra. All the new regs will get us more pay as the bad is weeded out and the good drivers are in high demand.
     
  5. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

    19,726
    18,722
    Apr 18, 2010
    Tennessee
    0
    You can fine the company, but they turn around and make the driver pay it.

    CSA 2010 will make them more accountable. Just wait and see.
     
  6. ssbowles

    ssbowles Heavy Load Member

    708
    286
    Sep 27, 2007
    High Desert,CA
    0
    How would it be legal to give the dispatcher a ticket for a logbook that you falsified?
     
    Rerun8963 and kd5icr Thank this.
  7. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

    1,798
    2,799
    Oct 18, 2008
    0
    Most of the folks I work with have never heard of a DAC report. I don't play a game. It is no game when I'm at a fatal motor vehicle collision that involves a big truck, with a driver that has a comic book. It's no game when the driver is charged with manslaughter. It's no game when said driver goes to prison for a comic book. It's no game when the victim's family sues the driver, the carrier and the dispatcher for millions and I am sitting in a three day trial hearing how this collision has impacted so many people that could have been prevented. It's no game when the EOBR's will become mandatory. I'm not a fan of them, but I see the writing on the wall. The reason this push has gained momentum is because of things you speak of.

    I know the games dispatcher and carriers play, but at some point you as a man, have to make a decision. Do I do this or do I stand up and tell them no. Unfortunately when I have a driver on the side of the road that is in this position, you can not put the company or dispatcher out of service. They are not operating the CMV, the driver is. Ultimately the driver is responsible for his own actions, you can only pass the buck so far. I hope you don't take this as a bash on you, because it is not. There are driver's that do this for years and years, millions of miles with no collision. Then one day, no fault of their own they are riding and minding their own business. And something castrophic happens and now this driver is involved in a crash that he did not cause, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Now everything he has done in the last week or so is scrutinized like you can not imagine. The end loser is a driver that has violated the hours of service. Like some have posted, I have never seen a carrier or dispatcher put anything in writing to violate this or that as related to HOS. You never will. The carrier will back away from the driver and throw him under the bus and he will become part of collateral damage that the carrier will try to distance themselves from. So the driver is left to hang in the wind and fend for himself. Just please think of this scenario as it can happen. It has happended for a few that I have seen. They never thought it would happen to them, but it did. They didn't plan on having this wreck as they were multi million milers with clean safety records to only get caught up in a bad deal, that was no fault of their own.

    Again, please do not take this as a bash towards you because that is not my intentions. Good luck to you and remember everyone has decisions they have to live with.
     
    oldedge, brsims, kd5icr and 13 others Thank this.
  8. wulfsbergvw

    wulfsbergvw Light Load Member

    66
    17
    Oct 5, 2009
    Leesburg, OH
    0
    From what I understand, (and I may be wrong) but an officer isn't supposed to be allowed to look at or ask to see your qualcom. From what I understand, all they can ask for is your comic books. If I'm wrong, please let me know...
     
  9. Rerun8963

    Rerun8963 Road Train Member

    3,917
    2,012
    Mar 30, 2006
    ova-hereee
    0
    frankly, you don't know what garbage comes from your mouth. we have all said what was what, and "diesel bear" has pretty much confirmed this as well.

    you don't know half of what you say..........or know............

    g'bye..........
     
  10. Rerun8963

    Rerun8963 Road Train Member

    3,917
    2,012
    Mar 30, 2006
    ova-hereee
    0
    the guy has no clue of what he speaks of........i'm still certain he got nailed BIG time for something, only he won't admit to it........oh wait, "several over weight tickets"..........he say's........
     
  11. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

    8,501
    9,489
    May 15, 2010
    West o' the Big Crick
    0
    In 2008, a federal judge ruled the QC is open game for DOT. If your logs are in the QC, you bet the officer can ask to see your logs. You can either show them to him or her in the QC or you can sit around the coop waiting for your company to fax them. I'd rather just give up the QC...and have, when asked by a Texas DOT. No big deal.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  • Draft saved Draft deleted