Wondering if others are seeing lesser than satisfactory RGN/flatbed rates from load boards?

Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by OldW900AOwner, Oct 18, 2020 at 8:13 AM.

  1. OldW900AOwner

    OldW900AOwner Bobtail Member

    Mar 16, 2020
    I'll start by saying...I do NOT live off of load boards. I stay fairly busy away from that arena. However in a case such as this week, I have to get myself from New England to St. Louis to get a wheel loader for a steady client in New Hampshire. I have a personal dispatcher who works very well for me to book loads when I need to get to another point such as this situation.

    She started searching 3 days ago, and said she's been laughing and hanging up on most of the posted loads on several load boards from brokers. It's so ridiculous that I almost just decided to deadhead out there 1100 miles to get it and shoot back, but of course as the old saying goes, "something's better than nothing". That puts me in the same category as the guys that undercut, work for nothing, run cheap freight and I understand that more than anybody. I HATE lowball, cheap rate carriers ruining a once-profitable industry.

    I reluctantly accepted and agreed to a stupidly cheap load out of Pa. to Ohio to get me 1/2 way out there...now we need to find another one of those to get me the rest of the way. I'm so disgusted with the way this game is played anymore I could vomit, but my rants or opinion will not change a thing so I won't go any further. I know...I'm part of the problem right? Sorry that I'm trying to be somewhat profitable. I apologize in advance for that.

    This thread was simply a question coming from a long-time member of the industry to see if the rates are indeed putrid, the demand is low, saturation is in existence, etc? When someone offers me $1.70 a mile with an $80,000.00 trailer and 40 years background in everything from trucking to rigging and heavy equipment repair, I can't help but get infuriated and maddened. Can't change it...just sayin'.

    Anybody else seeing low, putrid flatbed and RGN rates out in the spot market? (I don't need to hear about getting my own customers, I got plenty...) I try and add in my own disclaimers BEFORE the peanut gallery dogpiles me about using load boards. I don't like 'em one bit personally..but again, I am looking to just generate some "decent" revenue to get to Point B to head to Point C. But it's looking more and more like it might be coming to an end in using them if it keeps going this direction. The truckers blame the brokers, the brokers blame the shippers, the vicious circle never stops.

    I carefully reviewed all this to make sure I wasn't just spewing words...I am trying to open the eyes of some more free thinkers, with some years behind them.
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  3. JonJon78

    JonJon78 Road Train Member

    Jul 1, 2018
    When you have a endless supply of people doing exactly what you're doing then the results are exactly what you're seeing...

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  4. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

    May 4, 2015
    1) Loose lips sink ships.

    2) I've noticed there's a new outfit, not sure if it's a broker, that is specializing in the arena of heavy haul getting people to bid on it.

    3) Loose lips sink ships.

    4) It's been my experience that loyal customers first loyalty is to their wallet.

    5) Loose lips sink ships.
  5. PPDCT

    PPDCT Road Train Member

    Jun 15, 2017
    St. Paul, MN
    Can't speak to anyone else, but I know we haven't been seeing bottom barrel rates. I've got a quote for $12,000 out for 1400 miles out, with a guy who'd done this run for me last year on a wide nine-axle with some pilots and such. We've been pretty consistent across the board on our RGN work. Flats are up- I've got stuff up for $2.50+mi or better even in ugly lanes.
  6. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

    Dec 9, 2017
    I'm guessing there's not a whole lot of equipment moving this time of year normally, add in the volatility of the election and this is what you get, just guessing here.
  7. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

    Jul 27, 2011
    I would say @OldW900AOwner that its been like that since about March. I was talking to another RGN last night on this very subject. Its not like it has been in years past. I just spoke to someone offering a load $1650 on 300 miles. In years past Id set my rate about $1900-$2000 and have no problem getting that rate. I admit this year there is ALOT more haggling over some rates than years past.....
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