Wuhan Flu - They have found a cure: N.Y. Doctor

Discussion in 'Driver Health' started by Deadwood, Mar 24, 2020.

  1. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    That’s right. I found this.

    “The Food and Drug Administration has given emergency approval to a Trump administration plan to distribute millions of doses of anti-malarial drugs to hospitals across the country, saying it is worth the risk of trying unproven treatments to slow the progression of the disease caused by the novel coronavirus in seriously ill patients.”

    “There have been only a few, small anecdotal studies showing a possible benefit of the drugs, hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, to relieve the acute respiratory symptoms of covid-19 and clear the virus from infected patients.”

    “Health experts warn the drugs’ well-known side effects could become commonplace with wide use. In particular, they say, patients with existing heart problems or taking certain drugs, such as anti-depressants that affect heart rhythm, are at risk of a fatal episode. Experts recommend screening before the drugs are prescribed to prevent drug-related deaths.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/30/coronavirus-drugs-hydroxychloroquin-chloroquine/?outputType=amp
     
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  3. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    With all due respect, I believe that would be a decision for your mom to make after her health care providers laid out all the options and risks.
     
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  4. Lennythedriver

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    The biggest issue with this therapy is they don’t have enough supplies so they’re only administering it to severely sick. Many doctors out there said it’s most effective when giving to patients on the onset of the disease. Whether they become severe or not. It’s suppresses viral activity. Waiting until someone is almost on a ventilator it doesn’t yield as good of results. Although it’s still is effective in those patients.
     
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  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Agreed. I'm not a physician or an infectious disease expert by any means. I have read and listened to some talk about these meds and how effective they are. What I am hearing is not really promising in regard to these pre-existing conditions. My point here is going to be tough to word correctly, but I will try. My fathers Georgia Death Certificate lists his official cause of death as kidney failure. However, it was a complication of Congestive Heart Failure. So what killed my father?

    I have a feeling a lot of these Covid-19 deaths are going to be like what happened to my father. The person gets the virus, it sets off a pre-existing condition these medications won't treat and the patient dies.

    I suspect we will not really know for sure these medications are going to be an answer until double-blind studies are carried out and all the variables are taken into account. This may take longer than a month. What I like about the FDA is they are allowing their use off label in the meantime. The FDA is also taking steps to ensure the supply is adequate for all the labeled use as well. It's my understanding that millions of doses are either about to come or are already here.
     
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  6. Lennythedriver

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    This is a good rule of thumb to follow with this virus right now. 90% of those who are passing from it, likely would’ve passed from something else within 1 to 4 years. They were very sick or had serious medical issues. That said, Young and healthy people for some reason are severely getting sick from it the differences many times they can overcome it. What is also killing people from the virus itself is our own immunity‘s reaction to it. Inflammation of the lungs which is a histamine-based reaction. That’s where these meds became helpful. Not only did the malaria medication seem to block the virus from being able to attach to healthy cells, the azithromycin seem to block the over histamine reaction.
     
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  7. gentleroger

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    The question wasn't what Mom would do.

    It was what I would want were I responsible for the decision.

    Right now I think it is highly irresponsible for government leaders or the media to state/imply that any one drug/treatment is a cure.
     
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  8. Moose1958

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    Just as much as it is for them to do the opposite. Right now everybody needs to take a step back. Take a long deep breath and get as much information as possible. I'm trying to stay open minded while these studies play out. Then at some point we will all know.

    On a side note I was reminded just now on Twitter that some of these medications were issued to US service personnel during the Korean conflict and possibly during WW2 in the pacific. Im trying to research this now.

    Edited: I will not be able to do much research for the next several hours. I am in the process of re-installing my Windows 10 OS on all 3 of my computers. I use Win 10 Enterprise and this new 1909 version is out and for some reason, it won't let me just update. I will only be able to use my smartphone until then. I am in hopes someone can answer that question about use in Korea and during WW2.
     
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