Those who run gliders.....

Anyone ever run into this?........ I was stopped for a random on Monday evening in the middle of the boonies in South Carolina. Passed inspection no problem. He asked for proof that truck is a glider.... I told him that im not required to carry anything to prove on a roadside inspection that im E-log exempt(matter fact I gave him my log book but, he put it on his dash and never even went through it.). And that opened the flood gates..... he kept me another 30 minutes trying to find something to prove otherwise(which is ok). I also showed him the only reference to anything when it comes to gliders and elogs. Which was a guidance saying that proof of motor and engine changes be kept at the principal place of business.

Longer story short, He got done and told me that I should carry something. I told him there is nothing to carry.....my Vin and engine serial number should suffice on a roadside. He looked at my engine serial number and all of that.

I guess we finally agreed to disagree and we parted ways. We both were cordial so I dont want anyone to think me or him were out of line in anyway.

 

I have a 2000 Peterbilt 379, it has a 1997 Caterpillar engine. Even though I am not required I carry any documentation as you mentioned, I carry the engine build sheet with me. The build sheet shows the date of manufacture of of the engine. I have been asked for proof of the engine year several times during inspections.
You can call any Caterpillar dealer, and they can email you the build sheet.
On a side note, the carrier is required to keep all documentation on the engine at the home office. So if you have your own authority, technically he could ask the carrier for the documentation, which would be you.

 

Yes I run under my own authority. I do have the build sheet but, it doesnt show the date of the engine. The principal place of business is what the guidance says(IE home office). So thats where I keep it at.

I think the confusion came from my registration showing the model year, is what he was trying to say. Of course being a glider, the engine year is different. He was assuming that the "pre-2000" in the context of the guidance was meant ONLY for the truck....

 

You weren't out of line. He was.

 

Ive looked and looked(as I did years prior also) there is absolutely nothing im required to carry to prove that I have a glider. Like I said, only thing mentioned in any regulations was a "guidance". I have always assumed my Vin would suffice.

Like I said we were both cordial. But it did end in a veiled threat "from now on I should carry documentation". Any other inspections ive either never been asked for my log book or they take it and dont ask questions. Which I know all inspections are gonna be different with different officers.

 

Ok. I bought my truck with the current engine. I contacted Caterpillar and they emailed me a copy of the build sheet, that has the engine manufacture date. You should be able to the the build sheet with the date from Caterpillar.
I am not sure why he had any issue, the term glider, means a new truck with an older engine.

 

Also, on the door jamb, the last six of my vin followed by GL are imprinted into the metal. Ive got a Detroit 60 series. I at one time did go to Detroit back in like 2019 or 2020 to get something..... to be honest I cant remember why they didnt give me any paperwork

 

OK, I would reach out to Detroit and see what they can provide you to avoid any further hassles. Like I mentioned, I have been asked several times by DOT why I don't run an elog. I tell them the motor year and show them the build sheet, and they are satisfied.

 

Same exact thing happened to a friend of mine in Arizona. Some DOT simply aren't educated on all the regs. He also had to explain how the paperwork was kept at the office as required. In the end they both had to agree to disagree and no violation was listed.

 

Yeah I plan on going to Detroit in my hometown... I think I went to one in Indianapolis back in the day. I hadn't really given it much thought until Monday.