Petition to stop EOBRs

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Tin Can Man, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. Rat

    Rat Road Train Member

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    Last time I seen that sticker on the side of a truck it was on its side in the median in a small snow/ice storm. I stopped because the driver was standing on the side of the road waiting for a full grown to show up. He only had another 100 miles to go and did not have the time to stop and wait for the salt shaker and the sun to clear off the road.
     
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    Oh did you know him?
     
  3. Chucktaylor

    Chucktaylor Road Train Member

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    Easy... Saves the officer from having to ask to see my log book.

    before it, officer would ask, I'd show him my Qualcomm and he'd say "never mind" and wave me along.
     
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    You know what's nice? When you run paper logs and keep your truck looking good so when you pull across the scales the DOT officer doesn't even ask to see your log book. I have went across two open scales in the last week and not once have they asked to see my book. There is no difference in whether u run E-logs or paper when it comes to a DOT officer wanting to look at them. The only difference in which way you log is that E-logs are going beyond there means and pushing the issue to far.
     
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    Hey - I am too lazy to read through this whole thing but I noticed somebody saying that going over hours on elog would result in a negative CSA score. Thats not what our safety department told us. It would only go on CSA if DOT themselves find the violation when checking the logs just as with a paper log. It is the same with driving violations. If a local cop gives a speeding ticket it does not go on CSA - it has to be a DOT officer to show up there. Anyone know otherwise?

    Also the "Adverse Driving Conditions" rules in Part 395 of the regs do allow up to 2 hours over if you encounter bad weather or traffic or "unusual driving conditions" that werent predicted at the start of the run. It seems to me that a lot of drivers are so used to falsifying the paper log for that extra time that they cant accept that its within the law to go over providing it wasnt planned before you started.

    I don't mind e-logs. At least we can edit ours if we forget to log going in the sleeper etc. If e-logs put a stop to those idiots that run 2 paper logs and drive at 75mph for 20 hours straight then on balance they are a good thing IMO.

    I also noticed that if I stopped my engine when stuck in a traffic jam then it puts me off the drive line until Ive gone 2 miles. Always trying to save the company's fuel bill.
     
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    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    I've said it. I'm not in love with the e-logs. But I've accepted them and turns out I kinda like them. It makes planners and dispatchers accountable.
     
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    Nice try, but you're incorrect on this. The city cop was not overriding any federal law. Neither the cop nor anyone else was forcing the driver to drive. They were forcing the driver to get the truck off the property. Driving the truck is the easiest and cheapest way to do that. But its not the only way.
     
  8. EZX1100

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    that was weak
     
    volvodriver01 Thanks this.
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    It was weak, but it is also the very same stance the prosecuting attorney would take if the driver got involved in an accident while driving in violation of the HOS to move the truck. After all, ALL us truck drivers is millionaires, ain't we? We can all afford to pay for heavy tow drivers to pull our rigs and trailers all over the country. We only drive the bloody things to piss off 4-wheelers.
     
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    Call it weak all you want. But I know for a fact that local LEO's can and will cheerfully offer to call a wrecker for you if they want the truck moved and you don't have the hours available to do it. I know because I've had it happen to me. I'll get you a wrecker if you need one are generally the first words they say if they need the truck moved and you tell them you can't do it because you're out of hours.