Engine Repower

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  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I'm curious if anyone has any information about repowering year 2000 and newer trucks.

    Here are my questions:

    1) what year trucks from the year 2000 and newer can legally be repowered with older electronic or mechanical engines?

    2) if the truck is being repowered with an older electronic or mechanical engine (1999 and older), is it ELD exempt?

    3) is anyone running a truck like this, and have you had any problems?

    If anyone has any wording from the regulations that would apply to this that would be helpful also.
     
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    Nope I've thought about this and looked at a way around it a whole back, the EPA has been clear about this ... it has to be now the same year engine or newer.
     
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    2000 right, it's emission free. The build date in the 03s started egr valves.
     
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    So what does that mean for the repower and / or Eld?
     
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    2000 year build date truck gets a 2000 to 2002 engine . Eld requirements. I'm sure there are work arounds.
     
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    I've heard about people putting older engines then getting truck retitled to that year as special/reconstructed. Although I'm not 100% sure
     
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    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Here and in many many states something like this has to be titled as an "assembled" vehicle. The catch is that you have to prove the chassis came from one truck and the cab came from another, you can put on any engine you want.
     
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    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    In Pennsylvania that's called a reconstructed title. That's interesting. In Pennsylvania gliders have a reconstructed title.

    So what you are saying is that with trucks 2000 to present, any engine can be put in if a different cab is put on the chassis and you obtain a reconstructed title.

    Essentially making it a glider.
     
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    I thought that was a speciality construction title in PA?

    Yes you get a truck chassis from say eds used trucks, then a set of axles from Paul's truck parts and a cab from Indiana salvage, so on and so on ... put it all together and apply for a title.

    As long as you have it documented, with receipts or proof where it came from, then you get a title.

    I know someone who did a few trucks like that, he loved the look of a new cascadia and put himself one together with a 1997 mechanical engine. It is titled as an assembled vehicle and he has used it for the past five years
     
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    Here is the drill on the truck you see in avatar to the left.
    Build date: Oct 5 1999
    Engine installed: Series 60 Detroit EPA 1999 Model year specification
    Vin # indicates and it is titled as a 2000 model year truck
    1 st put in service March 30, 2000
    Remanufactured engine installed by Detroit Diesel dealer Fleetwood PA June 2008
    Engine installed identical to OEM engine, 1999 EPA specification
    ELD not required on this truck, documentation provided to several inspectors. No Issues
    I have a friend who is running a 2003 Sterling which had a used engine installed that was an EPA 1999 engine. The inspectors he has encountered have had no issues with him not having an ELD.

    Bottom line is there are so few trucks out there with drivetrains that old that it isn't worth it for the enforcement community to concentrate on them. If they really want to break your chops, they can and will find something wrong with your paper log, just like they always have.