I should have stated when they are loaded eyes to the shy on a pallet. It is not only our company policy but it is also the policy of the shipper...such as Logan Aluminum. It is neither stupid or dangerous! Thanks for your non personal intelligent input!
It is stupid and dangerous...You have never seen a coil come loose and you'd better hope that when you do it's not on your truck because at that point....Even Jesus won't be able to help you! Youre only driving experience is with Maverick doin it their way....You have not really flatbedded yet!
As I stated, it is the policy of Logan aluminum and a couple of other aluminum coils shippers that only straps are to be used on their coils. Every coil that goes out of their plant has a chain on it except for a trip chain. As far as not having really pulled a flatbed yet, I will just have to laugh. No I do not have the experience that you have nor have I ever pretended that I have. All I can tell you is that Maverick has one of the highest safety ratings in the industry so I am very comfortable with their rules and guidelines. On all other coils, except for the skidded aluminum coils, I use chains as that is Mavericks policy and the only way that it should be done. I would never even consider using a strap on a coil other than what is stated above.
A coil is a coil no matter what metal it is made out of. Never thought of it that way did you, didn't think so! You probably don't get my point, it will eventually come to you. For future reference, company policy doesn't always mean its safe or right. It may not be illegal, but it still may be unsafe! A great example is straps on steel bars.
I believe it is you Les2 who are missing the point. You can argue all you like but it would seem that you are the type of person who if it isn't done YOUR way then it isn't done properly and you do not possess the ability to look at it from any other point of view. I realize that this is pointless, but... When a shipper says no chains then it means you don't put chains on it. It is secured as far as legality is concerned so it is just you being difficult when you refuse. You have never pulled a load that made you a little nervous? Maybe the way it was loaded was a little "iffy" in your book? But it is not wrong as far is the law is concerned? So you just have so much freight available to you that you can say "well I don't like it" and go somewhere else? Maybe that is the fun of being a supertrucker? The next time the shipper cancels a load or you don't get a load that day because you feel that loading it the way that they want you to load it is wrong then maybe you will get the point. Maybe not now, but eventually. Nope, straps on coils is not ideal..but that's the way it is at some places. I believe that this is all Jim was saying to begin with. Good luck.
Chicken!!! This is Les when he used to live and drive in China. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peWsgEfU3vI[/ame] At least they didn't have chain marks!
You are grossly misinformed/ignorant. Just because a load is "legally" secured that doesn't make it "safe".
Never mind. I'm done with this thread. It was good. Now its just a series of insults. I'll figure things out on my own