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  1. Big_m

    Big_m Heavy Load Member

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    First of all a Ham license does not give you rights to break the law. And every since Bill Clinton signed the Police can take your radio.


    [h=3]President Signs CB Enforcement Bill[/h]NEWINGTON, CT, Nov 29, 2000--President Bill Clinton has signed legislation that permits the enforcement of certain FCC Citizens Band regulations by state and local governments. Amateur Radio operators are exempt from the provisions of the law, now PL 106-521.
    Congressional lawmakers saw the measure as a way to give a voice to those experiencing radio frequency interference resulting from illegal CB radio operation. The FCC will not yield its authority to regulate Citizens Band or other radio services, however.
    In short, the measure authorizes states and localities to enact laws that prohibit the use of unauthorized CB equipment--consistent with FCC regulations. This would include the use of high-power linear amplifiers or equipment that was not FCC-certificated (formerly called "type-accepted").
    Specifically, the bill enables state or local regulation over the "use of Citizens Band radio equipment not authorized by the Commission" and "the unauthorized operation of Citizens Band radio equipment" between 24 and 35 MHz. FCC-licensed stations in any radio service--including the Amateur Service--are excluded from such state or local enforcement, and state or local laws enacted under this legislation must identify this exemption.
    Anyone affected by the enforcement of such legislation could appeal to the FCC if they believed the state or local government had overstepped its authority under the new law. Any applicable state or local law would not preclude the FCC from enforcing regulations in a given case at the same time.
    The new law also says the FCC shall "provide technical guidance to state and local governments regarding the detection and determination of violations" of any regulations localities might enact.
    The bill--HR.2346 is the House version; it was S.2767 in the Senate--actually is the old Senate "Feingold bill" from several sessions ago. After introducing his original version a few years back, Wisconsin Sen Russell Feingold requested assistance from the ARRL to rewrite the measure to ensure that licensed hams could not be affected, that the bill featured a wealth of "due process" provisions, and that the concept of federal preemption over telecommunication activities wouldn't be compromised. The bill signed by the President is nearly identical to the Feingold bill.
    The bill's sponsor, Rep Vernon Ehlers of Michigan said Amateur Radio operators encouraged him to introduce the measure in the House last year. Ehlers maintained that the local hams asked him to support the bill because of the bad rap they were getting from illegal CBers using high-power linear amplifiers that resulted in TV and telephone interference while the CBers involved hid behind federal preemption.
    Ehlers says that when he was contacted initially by a frustrated constituent who had been experiencing TV, radio and cordless telephone interference, he thought the problem was an isolated incident. The CBer in question was using an illegal 100-W amplifier, he said, and the FCC told his constituent that it did not have the personnel to enforce CB lawbreakers around the country. Ehlers says he introduced his bill as a result.
    As did Feingold before him, Ehlers asked the ARRL to review his measure to ensure that it would not unintentionally harm Amateur Radio.
    The bill was amended in the Senate, which made a specific change requested by the American Trucking Association. The final version contains language with respect to CB gear aboard a "commercial motor vehicle" (as defined in Title 49, §31101 of the US Code) requiring that state or local authorities have probable cause that the vehicle or its operator was in violation of the regulations before they attempt to enforce such a statute. On the House floor, Ehlers said truckers were "worried about perhaps being harassed by improper use of the law."
    During discussion of the bill on the House floor--as reported in The Federal Register--one member spoke of "rogue operators" whose routine CB radio operation at excessive power levels left victims "helpless" to defend themselves. "When these operators boost their CB power levels, it often causes bleeding into nearby frequencies," the congressman said.
    The bill passed the House under suspension in September, and passed the Senate at the end of October under unanimous consent. The measure went to President Clinton for his signature on November 14.
    A copy of the new legislation is available on the ARRLWeb.
     
  2. Misfit022

    Misfit022 Bobtail Member

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    i dont know the difrent License or if there is for yr ham license i just no that with yr ham license you can use enough power to make reasomable contact..and most that have the ham license dont use the cb freks to talk on...normaly the guys that i know use higher freks ..hope this helps
     
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    Amplifiers are illegal on CB band. Period. With or without a license. He was being sarcastic.
     
  4. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    Yes I was being sarcastic but you would be suprised how many people beleve you can use a amp on CB if you get your license.

    Misfit ..... CB is restriced to 4 watts and 40 channels there is no upper or lower ones your stuck with a FCC certified radio that's the facts ....

    http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title47/47cfr95_main_02.tpl

    95.603, 95.605 and 95.607 set the rules for certification ( AKA WHAT IS A CB )
     
  5. Turbo-T

    Turbo-T Road Train Member

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    For a starter radio, you can do no better IMO than a Cobra 25 LTD or a Uniden PC 68. Either of these radios will give you everything you will need plus some, for under $100.
     
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  6. Misfit022

    Misfit022 Bobtail Member

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    look man the whole reason for me even posting is that some 1 asked about what a good CB starting out would be 1 guy posted that he had a stryker 447 or 497 ..some 1 else said you cant run that with out a HAM License but to get a normal cb and run a amp with it...I realy dont care i have bouth...i have a paly400 wat base with power suply and a tx 600 moble and in my big trk i have a dx979 turend up to 20 wats.. but i thought i would tell him if YR RUNNING OVER 4 WATS amp or raido u are "SUPPOSED TO " have yr License or at least under stand you Could get in truble if you dont.
     
  7. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    Misfit ...
    You CAN'T RUN ANY RADIO OVER 4 WATTS ON CB LEGALY ... You can't run any AMP on CB either...
    The fact that you have a HAM LICENSE does not matter you still can't run over 4 watts with it either.
    My point is this misstruth is wide spread just like the " 10" meter radio one you can't run a "10" meter radio on CB if
    you get a license either.

    See you have been told this by others who know nothing about the rules and in good fath beleved them just like the extra channels and other misstruths that somehow it is ok IF you do this or that ... It's not your fault you are going on what you have been told ... just like others ....

    Bottom line is IF your going to break the law running a LEGAL CB with a AMP is safer they have to catch you with the amp license or not it's still illegal.
     
  8. mike5511

    mike5511 Road Train Member

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    This is true...........and a whole bunch of CBers and Hams break those rules!
     
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    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    Tell me it an't so ......

    No Mike we agree much of this is on paper ...
     
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    Don't sleep on the new stuff. The 680 Uniden is a NICE radio. Simple tune and a 636 mic and it's definitely superior to it's predecessors.
     
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