Driver Dies of Heart Attack at Petro in North Little Rock, AR

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  1. CondoCruiser

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    Even without the defibrillator they could of gave CPR until the paramedics arrived.

    Trucks stop managers don't know how to do anything but squeeze your wallet.

    90% of truckstop wifi shutdowns can be fixed by a simple unplugging and plugging back in of the router and modem. They don't even know how to do that yet they offer the service. They rather wait a month or two for a repairman to come and unplug it/plug it in for them. If they can't do that how could they operate a defibrillator? :) I think truck stops have them more as a marketing ploy of "look, we care" type of deal.

    If the right side of the heart clogs one has a fair chance of surviving. When the left side clogs it's a major event. That's why they call it the widow maker. Arteries can rip, the heart muscle starts dying immediately from lack of blood flow and unless there is immediate help like administering a clot buster a defibrillator won't do much good if you can't restore some blood flow.

    RIP driver!

    It's a reminder of what all drivers face with this profession and hopefully some will make an effort to improve and fight what the lifestyle brings.
     
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    Wow............................ That won't prevent me from going to that Petro.. But wow. In such a extreme case maybe the manager froze up and didn't know what to do. Me, I would of did my part in helping save a life. If I lost my job but that guy lived to see another day oh well. Atleast I did SOMETHING.
     
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    Windsmith, please stay the heck away from my friends and family if they are needing first-aid. So if someone is unresponsive you're not going to try to help them because they can not answer those ridiculous questions? There's also the protection against civil tort to citizens, not trained first responders, EMS and the like, to not start CPR. In fact citizens have more protections in place than those that are trained and/or certified. So you don't need to worry, just go on past the person laying on the floor, on to the salad bar or buffet. After all you'd rather do nothing, then help a fellow human being in dire need. You've never had to "stick your neck out" to help someone? Laws, and lawsuits mean nothing at the time, that's something you don't think about until waaaay after the critical moment.
     
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    Perhaps I wasn't clear. If the person is unresponsive, then 'implied consent' is automatic. If the person IS responsive and is refusing aid, then their level of alertness and orientation must be proven to be below normal before invoking the implied consent doctrine. If they cannot answer the questions, they get treated.

    I spent 8 years as an EMT, 4 of those years working as a full-time paid, nationally registered EMT-Paramedic in field operations. I do know a little bit about emergency medicine. :)
     
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    I was waiting for Roadmedic to chime in but if you have the background don't they administer a clot buster if need be? I watched them give my brother one. It took them 8 minutes to bring him back.
     
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    I've been out of the field since 2007. The new ACLS protocols may include some type of 'clot buster' medication, but not when I was working. Roadmedic may have more current information.
     
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    Give them an Asprin if nothing else.
     
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    Sad

    The current defibrillators are idiot resistant, just follow the pictures.
     
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    so sad for the family he leaves behind
     
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    I remember a bunch of years back having to walk to the impound lot in Jersey City because my car had been booted and towed. As my friend and I neared the lot we heard a commotion coming out of the hallway of a building we were about to walk by. At the time my Spanish wasn't that great and my Panamanian friend told me that this guy was down on the ground with a heart attack because his coworkers, who were kind of standing around the downed gentleman in some state of shock, were saying in Spanish that he dropped of a heart attack. The last thing on my mind at the time was getting sued. All I could think of was this guys kids or wife being around and what would they want me to do. I took his pulse, there was none. I tried to remember what I had learned and performed CPR until the EMT's arrived. I'm sure they came pretty quick but time just seemed to stop. I never did see him come back so I'm thinking he didn't make it. It felt like hours until the EMTs came and I just remember the gurgling sounds and some other sounds. Horrible.

    Even if I got sued I would have never walked away without doing something. Go ahead and sue me. Good luck with that. Judges are human too and know the difference between negligence, the actions of a reasonable person, etc. I can sleep a lot easier knowing I gave someone my all rather than contemplate future litigation. I would have knocked the manager over to grab the defibrillator if I knew how to use one or would have just performed CPR for as long as needed.
     
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