failure to secure load

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by teemaw, Dec 25, 2013.

  1. mickey melon

    mickey melon Medium Load Member

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    Ok,,I 'll bring up a good point

    at what moment does the "manufacturer" become involved?
    Huh?

    Tired of equipment failures and pin the stress and citation on the Driver


    I guess it would be 'too hard' to Years ago, Trailers Bellies broke wide open...Axles break in 2......Fifthy wheel plates AND kingpins have also FAILED and caused devastation!

    Yet we Cant fault the Manufacturers?? Too easy to just "pin" the Drivers for everything.


    And I dont want to hear the ever so popular "pre-trip" horsechit line either
     
  2. KC Guardrail

    KC Guardrail Light Load Member

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    The manufacturer has no control over maintenance after it leaves their facility. When it is a design flaw, the NTSB and/or NHTSA get involved.
     
  3. stranger

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    All I want is to see pictures. They are so easy to upload.............that even a caveman could do it.
     
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    Read what the OP has posted throughout the tread. per the OP DOT cited the company and stated there was no way the defect would have been caught during a pre-trip. However, lets assume the weld was not the point of failure and instead it was metal fatigue of the axle tube. Unless you are carrying a scraper and wire brush to inspect every single inch of the axle tube on every pre-trip you're unlikely to spot it. Were the OP in Ohio then a rusted tube would be suspected and possibly caught early on a pre-trip. But the OP is in GA so rust is unlikely. :)
     
  5. KW Cajun

    KW Cajun Road Train Member

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    I agree on that issue and had already covered that issue (of structural defects that would be unlikely to see on a pre-trip) in my earlier post #48.
    I agree that some things can't be detected, but on catastrophic failures I said it's more likely there will be some signs beforehand. Not always, but more likely.

    Excerpt from post #48...
    As far as DOT citing the company, and verbally exonerating him, I may agree with those DOT officials, or may not.
    I'd have to see the structural failure close up & in-person before agreeing or disagreeing with them.
     
  6. Saddletramp1200

    Saddletramp1200 Road Train Member

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    He got a bath, I got to leave. He was not going to write me up yet.
     
  7. Saddletramp1200

    Saddletramp1200 Road Train Member

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    I think this thread has problems. Cross posting.
     
  8. moosc

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    Few things one about this thread. One if dot inspects your load and finds no straps or bars etc. Ticket doesn't matter. Second I'm having hard time following this thread, you say you lost a rear axle, and hit a car or two, then in a post you mention it was only the two outside tires. So which was it? They most have towed the trailer because that is unsafe. 3rd u say dot issued a ticket to your company. He would also issue u a ticket. You also will get Csa points against you. I would really call road law to protect you. You must have a cell phone show some pics I know I would.
     
  9. Saddletramp1200

    Saddletramp1200 Road Train Member

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    I am laughing my butt off still, that was a Truckers dream. It's all I can do to type.
     
  10. truckon

    truckon Swamp Thing

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    For those of you who can't seem to understand, the OP is stating that the last axle on the trailer WITH the tires still attached is what came off.
     
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