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zinita17601 said: ↑

Parts alone run around $7000.i had the same job done on my truck last year cost me 11k.the only thing extra was the cooler.1850 torque for both tranny and clutch.
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Our rtlo-18913a is $3850 with all the accessories incompatible core fee makes it $4650 with bell housing and air system included. Labor is 10 hours to r&r at 92.50 an hour $925. Drive shaft is $200 to get shortened. Yoke is $200. New fork and short side cross shaft is $75. Reman clutch is $450. Synthetic 50 wt oil $165. 4650+925+200+200+450+165=$6590 + tax

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Our rtlo-18913a is $3850 with all the accessories incompatible core fee makes it $4650 with bell housing and air system included. Labor is 10 hours to r&r at 92.50 an hour $925. Drive shaft is $200 to get shortened. Yoke is $200. New fork and short side cross shaft is $75. Reman clutch is $450. Synthetic 50 wt oil $165. 4650+925+200+200+450+165=$6590 + tax
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it looks good on paper,10 hr labor to r&r a tranny,u got to be kidding me.it may take that long to replace it but billing is a whole different story.

zinita17601, Jun 21, 2015

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it looks good on paper,10 hr labor to r&r a tranny,u got to be kidding me.it may take that long to replace it but billing is a whole different story.
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If that's the case we are dealing with fraud..

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One re-man alternator (ac delco 130 amp) at amarillo TX from freightliner (me doing the replacement no core) $400.00 ... lasted total of 6 days...purchased 2 alternators, leece Neville 140 amp, (brand dang new!!! with no core) from local parts supplier total cost: $385.00. Yes, these days dealerships will "put it to you".
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Leece Neville is a great alternator. You can usually find someone that will rebuild those for $150-$200.

Some of the prices people have stated on this tread are unbelievable, $2000 dollars to change an alternator!!!!!!! You have got to be ####ting me!!!!!

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Last time I was at the local KW dealer ,labor rates were $115hr and anything involving the engine or emissions was pages and hours of "diagnostics" courtesy of their Cummins insight software , and the diesel tech fumbling through it. The bills are so ridiculously high they won't say the price of the repair
at the service desk,they just slide the 5 page repair bill across the counter .I remember a $1900 bill for a $100 heated Def line and a $300 sensor.The last time we had the DPF filter cleaned it was $800 for cleaning and labor . As long as their bays are full and they always are ,their hourly labor rates just keep going higher and higher. The last truck I owned was a cabover Mack I bought from LJ Kennedy in 1996 for $6100 cash with all new tires ,new clutch ,drivers seat ,and 2 full tanks of fuel. I ran that truck everyday for 2 years running grocery loads in NJ and NYC and the 5 Boros and it only broke down once in those two years and it was the impeller in the air compressor.The truck made $4k a week and only did about 500 miles a week and fuel was $1.05 a gallon . I sold it to a Mack dealer for $4k when I gave up driving for a few years and had a couple of restaurants. I currently drive a $150k 2012 W900 company truck that had approx. $20k in out of warranty just emissions and engine related repairs and tow bills just last year and then dropped a liner and blew the engine to the tune of over $40k ( first shop wanted $50k ) 2 weeks before Christmas. With the amount of breakdowns and trips to the dealer and the engine blowing at just 300k miles this truck would have put me out of business . I don't know how the average owner operator survives today with a newer truck and the costs of running it today.
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You need to find a mechanic over in PA, or Upstate NY. The numbers and scenario you describe are from certifiable criminals. I hear nothing but bad news about those ISX Cummins Engines.

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Last time I was at the local KW dealer ,labor rates were $115hr and anything involving the engine or emissions was pages and hours of "diagnostics" courtesy of their Cummins insight software , and the diesel tech fumbling through it. The bills are so ridiculously high they won't say the price of the repair
at the service desk,they just slide the 5 page repair bill across the counter .I remember a $1900 bill for a $100 heated Def line and a $300 sensor.The last time we had the DPF filter cleaned it was $800 for cleaning and labor . As long as their bays are full and they always are ,their hourly labor rates just keep going higher and higher. The last truck I owned was a cabover Mack I bought from LJ Kennedy in 1996 for $6100 cash with all new tires ,new clutch ,drivers seat ,and 2 full tanks of fuel. I ran that truck everyday for 2 years running grocery loads in NJ and NYC and the 5 Boros and it only broke down once in those two years and it was the impeller in the air compressor.The truck made $4k a week and only did about 500 miles a week and fuel was $1.05 a gallon . I sold it to a Mack dealer for $4k when I gave up driving for a few years and had a couple of restaurants. I currently drive a $150k 2012 W900 company truck that had approx. $20k in out of warranty just emissions and engine related repairs and tow bills just last year and then dropped a liner and blew the engine to the tune of over $40k ( first shop wanted $50k ) 2 weeks before Christmas. With the amount of breakdowns and trips to the dealer and the engine blowing at just 300k miles this truck would have put me out of business . I don't know how the average owner operator survives today with a newer truck and the costs of running it today.
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the average o/o does not repair his truck at dealers. there are always good shops around who can repair for half of dealer cost. plus if you want to survive with newer emission trucks you need to have your own copy of Cummins or DD diagnostic software in the truck. its not hard to run it and diagnose the problems. these softwares also tell you and show you what to change on the truck.

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I was in Nevada one night getting an oil change. Normally, I hang around and observe. But this time I decided to relax in their waiting area. I noticed that some time had passed and went out to check on the progress. I walked over and the technician was in the pit under my truck. He said,"man, I've been trying for 30 minutes to get this oil filter off but it just won't come loose." I looked under the truck and noticed he was trying to turn it the wrong way.
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I always told them I am going to be watching what you do to my truck. If they start this crap about you can't go out there, I tell them I'll just find somewhere else to go. Of course i always tried to use the same shops over and over if they had good service.

DonM, Jun 22, 2015

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the average o/o does not repair his truck at dealers. there are always good shops around who can repair for half of dealer cost. plus if you want to survive with newer emission trucks you need to have your own copy of Cummins or DD diagnostic software in the truck. its not hard to run it and diagnose the problems. these softwares also tell you and show you what to change on the truck.
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Where can you get the software for DD?

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Where can you get the software for DD?
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from Detroit Diesel. the cost is $500 per year. the name is DiagnosticLink.

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fullerman said: ↑

If that's the case we are dealing with fraud..
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I wont say fraud,this is a common practice in any truck shop.it may take the mechanic 10 actual hours to do the job but he uses the bathroom talks about yesterday game and his girlfreind trouble,waste an hour looking for a part or a wrench,quick cigarette break etc etc by the time he punches that time card the 10hr job turned to a 20hr job.

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