07 Colum bia or 2011Cascadia

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  1. tonycr

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    here's my dilemma bUying my first truck choices are 0 7 Columbia with 970,000 miles works everyday engine history nothing major just been a solid money making truck asking $17,000 or fleet 2011 Cascadia 455 Detroit 10 speed, 500000 miles 1 year warranty$45K Im lening towards the 07 if Dyno is ok .if you O/O would give me your thoughts and opinions please thanks.
     
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    Need more information to give a proper answer.

    Why are these your only 2 choices? Many many different trucks between that price range.

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    Both trk's come out of same fleet I went through my company's finance bank said 07 was to old to finance, but I could get the 2011 with very little down and 7% $45,000 four yrs. My local bank will finance the 07 and I can pay off on 13 month,
     
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    What motor tranny and reared in the 07?
     
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    455 Detroit not sure the rear end its a old fleet trk the guy selling it he and I work for the same people I think it would make a great 1st. Trk
     
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    As a first truck id vote for the 07. Wont leave you so far in debt and you can pay it off quicker. Plus financed through your bank leaves you no ties to company other then you leased on if things get bad take your toys and go play in someone elses sandbox with no hassles
     
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    A lot of miles for a Detroit on the 07. Still need a lot more info.

    What type of trailer will you be pulling?
    How heavy?
    What region/lanes?
    OTR/Local?

    I dont have much experience with Detroits. Of the modern versions, I've driven the 11.2 and 12.7 60 series. Also the DD15 and DD16. From what I have read,.. not personal experience. The Detroits are not considered million mile motors like the CAT. After 700-800kk-ish miles they need to be gone into. Bull gear, bearings etc. If I were to buy one with that mileage, I would go ahead and do an inframe right from go.

    If the 07 has the 14L 60 Series,.. I personally know 2 people who positively regret buying having it. Complaints are thirsty and lack of power with all the same concerns as the rest.

    Also bare in mind,.. Columbia and Cascadia are not very desirable trucks when it comes to resale time. So understand,.. any and all the money you put into either will have to be chalked up as doing business. Dont expect any kind of return.

    I own a 2005 Columbia with a C15 CAT,.. the truck in and of itself is a money maker. But I dont expect to even get what I paid for it despite everything I have done to it.

    If you buy either truck,.. are you prepared for repairs and maintenance expenses? You say you are financing,.. I assume this means you do not have much cash on hand? I personally would not buy a truck with out the means to repair anything that could go wrong from day one. This is not a cheap business to get into. Are you at least mechanically inclined enough to do most repairs yourself?

    Not trying to be negative. Just want you to be aware and understand the pitfalls before you sign on the dotted line and become obligated to a monthly payment on a potential yard ornament.

    People sell trucks for several reasons.
    Usually for maintenance reasons. They know whats coming and would rather sell it before hand.

    Company owners are in business to make money. Dont be naive or too eager when buying your first truck. Do some research and look at some other trucks. Get an idea of whats out there and what they are selling for. Read up on the different engine, gearing and trans combos. The pro's and cons of each. Read up on the problems to look for with each brand of truck. No truck brand is perfect. Each has its own quirks and issues to watch out for, beyond just the power train thats in it.


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    [QU OTE="Hurst, post: 5091458, member: 70494"]A lot of miles for a Detroit on the 07. Still need a lot more info.

    What type of trailer will you be pulling?
    How heavy?
    What region/lanes?
    OTR/Local?

    I dont have much experience with Detroits. Of the modern versions, I've driven the 11.2 and 12.7 60 series. Also the DD15 and DD16. From what I have read,.. not personal experience. The Detroits are not considered million mile motors like the CAT. After 700-800kk-ish miles they need to be gone into. Bull gear, bearings etc. If I were to buy one with that mileage, I would go ahead and do an inframe right from go.

    If the 07 has the 14L 60 Series,.. I personally know 2 people who positively regret buying having it. Complaints are thirsty and lack of power with all the same concerns as the rest.

    Also bare in mind,.. Columbia and Cascadia are not very desirable trucks when it comes to resale time. So understand,.. any and all the money you put into either will have to be chalked up as doing business. Dont expect any kind of return.

    I own a 2005 Columbia with a C15 CAT,.. the truck in and of itself is a money maker. But I dont expect to even get what I paid for it despite everything I have done to it.

    If you buy either truck,.. are you prepared for repairs and maintenance expenses? You say you are financing,.. I assume this means you do not have much cash on hand? I personally would not buy a truck with out the means to repair anything that could go wrong from day one. This is not a cheap business to get into. Are you at least mechanically inclined enough to do most repairs yourself?

    Not trying to be negative. Just want you to be aware and understand the pitfalls before you sign on the dotted line and become obligated to a monthly payment on a potential yard ornament.

    People sell trucks for several reasons.
    Usually for maintenance reasons. They know whats coming and would rather sell it before hand.

    Company owners are in business to make money. Dont be naive or too eager when buying your first truck. Do some research and look at some other trucks. Get an idea of whats out there and what they are selling for. Read up on the different engine, gearing and trans combos. The pro's and cons of each. Read up on the problems to look for with each brand of truck. No truck brand is perfect. Each has its own quirks and issues to watch out for, beyond just the power train thats in it.


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    Van37000 pounds average I got about $6,000 saved up like I said I was going to do a dyno test on it and if the DYnocomes out okay I'll go ahead and do the main bearings rod bearings in make some money repair it as it comes up
     
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    Van37000 pounds average I got about $6,000 saved up like I said I was going to do a dyno test on it and if the DYnocomes out okay I'll go ahead and do the main bearings rod bearings in make some money repair it as it comes up[/QUOTE]
    OTR like I said the guy drives itit everyday so I know it's a little bit of gamble
     
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    07 has less emission equipment, less to break.
     
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