Can’t use the 16-Hour Short-Haul Exception if you qualify for “Non-CDL Short Haul Exception”

Can someone please explain why a non CDL driver who may on rare occasion use the “Non-CDL Short Haul Exception” be excluded from using the "16-Hour Short-Haul Exception",

Is the reasoning that the non CDL driver doesnt need to keep a log book under the “Non-CDL Short Haul Exception” but a log book wood be required for the "16-Hour Short-Haul Exception",?

Thanks
Granny DP
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That is one thing you do not use at all.

It is better not to use it at all than to try and use it, then making a mistake that is detected and fin-able by DOT.

If you felt that you fell into the 16 hour exemption and then have to break out a virgin paper logs or start the ELD it defeats the purpose of not having logs at all.

 

Both the "16-Hour Short-Haul Exception" and the “Non-CDL Short Haul Exception” require the same log keeping which is to "Keep time records showing time in, time out, and total number of hours"

Note that the driver is not "non CDL" the truck is. You may not use the "16-Hour Short-Haul Exception" if you qualify for the “Non-CDL Short Haul Exception” explained earlier. A class A CDL driver in a 26K straight truck gets both 150 air miles and 2 exceptions a week.

The way I understand it is they want to avoid drivers double dipping in the Non-CDL Short Haul Exception, 16-hour short-haul exception, and/or the split sleeper-berth provision to stack the exceptions on top of one another during the week to get three exceptions.

 

I thought is is 100 air mile radius . I'm a local driver in a day cab and usually have to use that once a week, if its 150 miles I can make more money.

 

It's 150 for non CDL vehicles.
I.e. weight rating between 10,001 and 26,000 lbs.

 

O.K. that leaves me out. Thanks

 

I didn't think the 16 was allowed anyways. Except for very special occasions for special people.
As in, only certain drivers could use it under certain circumstances. Not just any tom dick & harry.

Who has the regulation link?

 

395.3(a)(2) is the 14 hour rule.

(o) Property-carrying driver. A property-carrying driver is exempt from the requirements of §395.3(a)(2) if:

(1) The driver has returned to the driver's normal work reporting location and the carrier released the driver from duty at that location for the previous five duty tours the driver has worked;

(2) The driver has returned to the normal work reporting location and the carrier releases the driver from duty within 16 hours after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty; and

(3) The driver has not taken this exemption within the previous 6 consecutive days, except when the driver has begun a new 7- or 8-consecutive day period with the beginning of any off-duty period of 34 or more consecutive hours as allowed by §395.3(c).

In a nutshell the 3 criteria are.
1. Start/Stop last 5 days at the same location.
2. 16 hours instead of 14.
3. Can be taken once a week or last reset.