Count the Cost of leasing onto a company as an Ownere Operator

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Scooter Jones, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    I thought I'd put together a list of cost(s) considerations for those considering leasing on to a companies authority, or obtaining your own.

    This list is NOT exhaustive by any means. Others here have proffered their own list, so I figured I'd give it a shot.

    The reality is that different types of operations incur varying costs, however, this list might provide a bird's eye view of what to expect.

    Fixed Costs
    Truck Payment
    Trailer Payment
    Insurance (equipment & cargo)
    ***In the event of an accident, where will the money to pay deductible come from?***
    Factoring/Quickpay
    Gap insurance
    Life Insurance
    Tow insurance
    IRP
    2290
    Loadboard
    Phone & Internet
    Elog
    Prepass
    Tolls
    Permits
    Accounting

    Variable Costs
    Truck fuel
    DEF
    Relevant road tax
    IFTA
    Truck maintenance
    Trailer maintenace
    Downtime contribution
    Equipment replacement contribution
    Parking
    Memberships/Subscriptions

    Wages & Benefits
    Wage
    Per diem
    Retirement
    Health insurance
    Vacation pay contribution

    Payroll costs
    Company matching taxes
    Worker's comp
    Unemployment insurance
    Disability insurance

    I'm sure there's more that can be added to the list. However, after taking a pad & pen to the list, I think it's abundantly clear WHY these Company CEO's are more than happy to sign lease operators at $1.30 to $1.50 per mile and to allow the lease operator to bear all liability.
     
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  2. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    When I worked inside the corporate office, I used to ask lease ops, for instance, if they could tell me what their fixed monthly expenses were. The question inevitably drew a blank stare ;-)
     
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    Well they are supposed to as a lease holder, they are providing a service to the carrier and operating under their authority in return for straight compensation.

    this is the relationship that was created long ago and no one forces anyone to take $1.30 a mile as a lease holder.
     
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    Good post. It should be required reading for every newbie that decides he wants to get into the trucking business.
    We see it on here all the time...if the driver has a little money left over at the end of each settlement period he figures he's making a profit.
    If I was riding the ragged edge that some of those guys are I don't think I could sleep at night.
    If they use your post as a cheat-sheet maybe they'll wake up to the actual costs of doing business.
     
  5. Scooter Jones

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    Thank you for your kind words.

    Anyone with a basic understanding of how to create a spreadsheet can take the basic outline of what I've posted here and develop their own.

    It's a real eye opener when one plugs the numbers in and to see how much it actually cost to operate one of these trucks.
     
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    When I was in business for a couple years one day an old timer stopped in and lectured me on knowing my costs down to the penny. He said if I don’t figure that out then I’m just pissing in the wind. lol.

    Needless to say I took it pretty serious and began really figuring things out after that. When your a newbie somehow it just seems not too important which is a fatal mistake for your business.. Or people that don’t account for ALL of their costs. They think ok truck payment and fuel and I’m good!

    Great post!
     
  7. Scooter Jones

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    A question I always ask guys who are considering the lease op route is this, can the company you are going to lease on to operate that truck profitably, with their own employee, for the same amount they are offering you?

    I can assure you, the answer is no.

    So then, it stands to reason if you're going to operate a truck as an independent owner operator with your authority, it's equally as important to have a good grasp of the real numbers before you take the plunge.

    Because if not, you'll have your head handed to you before you know it.
     
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    Overwhelming list. Good job discouraging those too euphoric.
     
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    I had forgotten to add Factoring/QuickPay into the variable cost section. I don't use it myself, however, many do and that number in itself can add a pretty significant hit to the bottom line.
     
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