Do I Need a CDL?

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  1. outbackconversions

    outbackconversions Bobtail Member

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    My wife and I are thinking about starting a little freelance transport business where I would use my 2013 Ford F350 to haul 3 cars on my goose neck trailer at a time to deliver. I know there are restrictions to weights for a CDL, but would it be compliant for me to do this without a CDL?
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    Most likely you will not need a cdl. You only need a cdl b if the gvwr (truck and trailer) is 26,001 or more. A class a is needed if the trailer is 10,001 or more. Most likely you are below the 26k mark.
    You will need a dot number, medical card, and all other requirements as you are a cmv. Anything over 10,001 is regulated. Doesn't matter if it's a semi or a pickup hauling cars.
     
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    You will be hauling freight (cars) for $$$. You'll need a CDL.
     
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    3 cars average 9000 lbs with a trailer that weights at least 3000, yes you will need a cdl.
     
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    9000 for a car????
     
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    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    READ IT AGAIN :)
     
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    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    If the trailer is over 10K lb, yes. With a couple of 6K lb pickups and a car on, your payload will be close to 15K, and the trailer will be at least 6K. Even with a goose neck, you'll be over 10K some of the time.
     
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    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Since there is so much wrong information on this thread....

    Here is the link to the Michigan CDL manual. On pg 5 it specifies who needs a CDL.
    https://www.michigan.gov/documents/cdlmanul_16090_7.pdf

    Just because one makes money off driving does not a CDL require. Just because on delivers products does not a CDL require. It's all about the combined vehicle weight, if it's a bud, or if it hauls placarded amounts of hazmat. Nothing else.
    Since the op is not driving a bus, or hauling hazmat (reportable quantities), all that is left is the weight issue. I've already answered that.

    Now there are some states (Michigan, maybe others) that require a chauffeurs license if one makes money driving, but that is just a money grab. Go to SOS (or DMV) and add that for a fee. No testing or anything like that required.
     
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    MysticHZ Road Train Member

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    Well, crap ... that's what I get for posting before I get of bed, much less wake up.