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If we don't mandate it in the great white north, does that mean we can all unplug them when we cross back into canuckistan?

Excellent question.

 

So, are you saying you're lactose intolerant?

 

I believe you will find that to be incorrect verbage. You do not start and stop the elog in the middle of the trip. For the duration of the trip but not only logging the middle of a trip.

 

YOU start the elog when you do your pre-trip. It is all about the assignment of the load, not the miles you drive.

YOU can not start and stop an elog when you cross that 150 mile exception is met. The 150 mile exception is excluded at the point of the assignment which takes you over the 150 mile demarcation.

The need to log exception and the further logging has to do with drivers like LTL who have a variable pickups and drops during a day, not for someone that has to go over the 150 miles as assigned. If there is a route that picks up at the farms and then gets one farm that brings him out to beyond that 150 miles, like 175, then he has to log the entire day.

We've already gone through this with the FMCSA and Michigan carrier enforcement, it doesn't matter what one state says, it matters that the state you cross into and the cop interprets it as, and he will tell you that the assignment of the load is what matters, not the 150 mile exception.

 

Which type of logging?

Either you log the trip, or you don't. The exemption has no provisions in it for a combination of the two, that is a violation based on regulations.

I did short haul for 3 years and have dealt with this issue where I worked.

the ag exemption is the same I operated under except for the distance, so when I went from Detroit to Elkhart, that did not fall under the short haul exemption and had to be logged from start to finish, this was a 204 mile trip one way and took four hours to get out there, unloaded and came back within 10 hours total.

The question came up with one of my drivers last year when he was doing three weeks of short runs for Fiat, I told him to log the entire trip if he has to go beyond 100 miles and did so three times. The company even said it had to be done. I contacted my state police and asked to make sure, and then the FMCSA and it all came back the same as I was told, you have to log the entire trip.