Getting off of disability and K restriction

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by FredTheBasset, Jun 6, 2025.

  1. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    EVERY driver in my CDL class wanted much more time to learn shifting and to learn backing or pre-trip. Almost none of us felt fully ready to test. But maybe only 2-5 students out of 30 didn't pass the state exam on first attempt. Years later the drivers talking to you are not still struggling with the basic skills but I'd be surprised anyone here will claim they didn't grind gears daily when they started, or didn't have a tough time backing when they were new and on their own. Difficulty with a task is not permanent inability to do that task. You are at the early stage where you might have almost nothing but what the school is showing and talking about and zero practical experience beyond that in learning common skills. One of the values of ANY JOB is you are no longer being taught by surrogate family members (like elementary school) and you aren't learning from surrogate parents (like in middle and high school) and the outcome of what you need to learn is not some pointless topic just to get a grade. SOMEBODY needs SOMEONE to learn that skill (make food in a restaurant, or collect money for customers in a store, etc) and NOT doing that skill is not an option. You may have several things going on at the same time that are usually sorted out one at a time when your brain and body are better suited to learning ANYTHING and the people teaching are more like Mister or Miss Rodgers. You are having several key life stages happen at once which is more difficult for anyone going through it. Jobs, hobbies, relationships, accomplishments all of them show you important things regardless of the individual job, hobby, relationship, accomplishment. Learning to play darts and learning to play baseball are very very different but in learning them you learn some of the same lessons. Those are you are going to feel out of place and inept and you still keep practicing. You are going to see some slow improvement, so keep practicing. You are going to see periods when you are not getting better, but you keep practicing. You may have times when your skill gets worse, so keep practicing. Then you will see your skill get dramatically better in a short period but now you notice you don't have the strategy knowledge to get to the next level, so you practice and you study strategy. The cycle continues. It's better to have these discussions with the other students because they are also having trouble and someone of them may have found the key item that turned their struggle into improvement, but not of us were in that truck with that instructor in those conditions.

    Teachers can train people to be brain surgeons, engineers, snipers, plumbers, accountants, basketball players, etc. It's a step-by-step process. Each difficulty is NOT a signal you have no business trying. It MIGHT be that signal, but generally you will get several or numerous very BIG signals is that's the message. I am not sure you have had enough experience doing things to know the difference between normal difficulty and "the universe telling you to pick another thing." Only you know what signals you are getting and what effort and understanding you have. I was pretty frustrated in CDL school because it seemed like the school had terms for common events or maneuvers and every student and instructor had their name for the same thing. There are multiple ways to learn a thing. So it was tough to know is the difficulty learning A because I've never heard the words you are yelling at me before, is the instructor yelling because he was frustrated with the last 5 students ignoring his instructions, and what is the instructor looking at EXACTLY and when to accomplish this thing.

    There is learning/knowing and there is doing. You are at whatever level of learning/knowing you and the school have come to but you don't have all of the manual learning you want. That's what everyone felt in school.
     
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  3. Rugerfan

    Rugerfan Road Train Member

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    Now days you could literally teach a monkey to drive a truck pretty quickly. I don’t say that to be rude. What I mean is that with autos and all of the safety nonsense these days, they’re making it so the dullest person on the planet can learn quickly. Be thankful that you’re actually learning how to drive a manual, and learn how to properly do things. When the time comes to be on your own, you’ll be more prepared than 95% of the new drivers out there.
     
  4. FredTheBasset

    FredTheBasset Bobtail Member

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    Thank you for that thoughtful and helpful reply.

    I started out learning manual, but my instructor advised me to switch to automatic. I'd be there much longer otherwise.
     
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  5. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    No experience. Had never been behind the wheel of a truck before.
     
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  6. Rugerfan

    Rugerfan Road Train Member

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    Don’t do automatic. You’ll regret it in the long run. Your instructor is full of ****
     
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  7. FredTheBasset

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    They're phasing out manual. Hardly anybody uses them. I may learn how do do it sometime on the job just for the challenge, but it's not that big of a deal to me. It reminds me of cursive - I learned it as a kid, but never needed to use it aside from signing my name.
     
  8. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    You would be surprised how many companies use manuals. And if you chance upon that cherry job opportunity that runs manuals and you have that restriction, you lose. Learn on a manual, get most, if not all the endorsements, and you will be ahead of the pack.
     
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  9. Rugerfan

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    That’s a fools thinking. You only know that because your instructor told you. Yes sure the mega OTR carriers may be going that way, but most local companies still run manual trucks.
     
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  10. FredTheBasset

    FredTheBasset Bobtail Member

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    I probably will have the restriction removed at some point, but I simply don't have the time at the moment to learn manual. Family life is being interrupted as it is.
     
  11. TexasRiverRat

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    Wtf are you talking about? I read your initial reply, waited a day, then read it about ten more times. I still can't figure out what your point is. OP is in lala land thinking he's entitled to a CDL in a set amount of time.

    He replied with a similar word salad as you did. Maybe you're offended because you see a little of yourself in him?

    My way of thinking is that the CDL exam should be more difficult to pass, not easier.
     
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