Hours of Service, carrying over to the next day.

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  1. swaggerjacker

    swaggerjacker Medium Load Member

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    I started a shift at 1:30 pm. Ended it at 2:30 am the next day. I was told I continue it on another log (the 2.5 hours). My question is, do I do the recap on the second sheet? Also, what should I do with the rest of the grid from 2:30 on? This is the first time I split a shift between days. I could not find an example online.

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    after midnight you need to be on a new page. Make sure you fill it out completely and SIGN IT.

    The 2nd sheet should have all the required pertainent information as the 1st sheet... mileage should reflect the correct numbers.

    if you went off duty or sleeper from 2:30 am on till midnight on 2nd day, draw the line up to line 1 or 2..... sign it .

    https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/sites/fmcsa.dot.gov/files/docs/HOS_Logbook_Examples_2015MAY_508.PDF

    page 6 will give you an idea.
     
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    I went off duty until 12:30 pm. That would be ten consecutive. I checked the link, but still couldn’t figure out how to complete the second page. I drew the line on Line 3 from midnight to 2:30am. But I don’t know what to do from there. As far as the 4 clocks go. I hope I’m explaining myself correctly.
     
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    I dont understand how you dont understand. Its really not hard, at midnigjt starts a new log sheet. Close out yesterdays log and open today.

    Yesterdays hours. Have to equal 24.

    Open todays. From midnight to 0230 line 3. Okay.

    Show 15 minutes or whatever pti on line 4. Shoot up to line 2 and sleep till 1245. Then carry on with the day. Till midnight. Then a new log. Rinse and repeat.
     
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    On page 1 - if you were on line 3 at 11:59pm then on page 2 you would carry it over on line 3 till 12:30am. then it seems you dropped to what line from 12:30a to 2:30a????

    Page 2 is a new day and it is filled out just like page 1.
     
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    You don't complete the second day's sheet until the second day is done (after 24:00 of the second day). If you are going off-duty for the reminder of the second day then you could draw a line from when you went off-duty for the remainder of the day and complete the sheet.

    The recap is not required so you can do it wherever you want. I never kept a recap on the log sheet; just opportunity for another error.
     
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    You went through day one 1:30 to midnight at the end of your log. Sign that page. That is day one complete. Its a legal document when you sign it. Make sure it is ACCURATE with the correct actual mileage (They can ticket you for speeding if the average is too much per hour... for example)

    Your day two started on the next log page at midnight plus one minute. Progress your lines as you finish up your driving for your bunk time or whatever. Work on that day two until it's completed at midnight.

    There is a recap column. Whatever total hours driving and on duty goes into day one and when you complete day two add that up and go into day two and so on until you have 8 days recap on paper. That way YOU WILL ALWAYS know on the 9th day how many hours you have against the total limit of 70 hours in last 8 days.

    Be very careful with words. When you say or are told " Use another log" it means a complete seperate logbook, creating a situation where you might be running two or even three logbooks. Don't do it. Ever.

    REMEMBER to constantly audit your trip planning as you go against your delivery date and hour. If you find that the miles averaging is working against you to where you will be LATE you immediately call into dispatch and request a new appointment date and hour BEFORE the dispatchers themselves realize that you are LATE and are sent a "Call me" message next morning.... Time is both a tyrant and a asset. Spend it wisely.
     
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    Y'all making @swaggerjacker head spin...lol

    I had to do that "2-page" log when I did night deliveries and I hated it.

    Each calendar date had its own log (with related DVIR details). At mid-nite, I would note the mileage (and all the post-trip stuff and sign-off) then start a fresh sheet (again, with all the pre-trip DVIR stuff) then at 6-8AM when I returned to base, I did a separate post trip, upon shutdown, BUT KEEP my log open.

    This "open" log would show my off-duty time, till that DAY's evening trip, again, and at mid-nite I would rinse, repeat.
     
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    I’m sorry. I get it. Misunderstood. Thanks much for the help.
     
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    It all makes sense. I can’t believe it took me that long to get it. Thanks guys!