Hours of service question?

Hello friends, have a question. My husband was an over the road driver for years and has now come off the road to work locally. He still has his CDL A and now works as a Yard Dog at the terminal, and occasionally (maybe once a week) is asked to shuttle a trailer about 135 miles away and back. While he is doing only yard dog work he does not have to keep a regular log, but when he gets ready to shuttle he has to fill out a log and his 7 day work history etc... We know based on HOS you can work past 60/70 hours per week as long as you don't drive, same as working not driving past 14 hours in a day until you have the required break time. So the question has arose as to weather his work as a yard dog after his 60/70 hours is considered driving? He never leaves the terminal after his 60-70 hours only moving trailers from one dock to the other. If he never takes that shuttle run he has been told he can work as many hours as he would like in a week, so is a yard dog considered driving or warehouse yard work? Please anyone have any info on this we would love to know, he was told by another employee that once he takes that shuttle run he has to stop working in yard at 60 hours until he has a reset or he will get a violation so now he is worried.
Thanks in advance,

 

when i was a local driver. i hauled dirt for construction. some times you got stuck on a job sight. working on sight. don't know what distance he travels as a yard dog. but when doing on sight work. it was still ON DUTY time. the only times we had to do a log was when we worked over 12 hours. 11 hours drive, plus 30 lunch plus 30 for pre/post. we could work up to 14 hours on duty. had to take a 10. and we were allowed 60 hours per 7 days.

even if we didn't work on sight that day. we actually drove around. it was the same. basically ON DUTY hours.

the rule states you can be on duty as long as you want. you just can't drive till you've taken a 10. being a yard jockey. he is behind the wheel. driving.

my guess is that he's on a hourly pay scale. (time clock). his time cards would be his logs. becuase he goes to work. punches the clock. and comes home. just like anyone else that isn't long haul trucking or whatever profession. he would only have to do a driving log for the day he does that 135 mile trip.

it was the only time we had to do a log. but back then it was 150 mile radius. sometimes we went 200 miles from utah into wyoming and back,

i've been over the road 2 1/2 years now. things may have changed some what since the new hours of service kicked in last month.

 

All local work whether driving or dock work, etc is "on duty not driving" and is added with the 70 hour rule. Example: If he worked locally five 12's (60 hours) he would only have 10 hours available to drive in the next two days. That's if he started the week with zero hours or 34 hours off duty. If not a rolling recap would have to be considered.

 

my local companies all told me 60/7 rule. cuz we're local. going home every night. working on a 7 day week. we never worked more then 60 hours.

the 70/8 rule applies to the long haul operations. that aren't home at night. or week.

but you all say everylone works the 70/8 rule. so what would be the purpose of the 60/7 rule????

 

70/8 and 60/7 depends on the number of days you're open for business. So like if you're a monday - friday business and do no work on the weekend you'd be a 60/7, if you operate all 7 days a week you'd be a 70/8.

 

I was just using that as an example snowy since most drivers experience the 70 hour rule. But what Meltom says is correct. There are many trucking businesses closed on Saturday and/or Sunday.The company uses what's best to their advantage.

 

that's what i've heard before.

EXCEPT.

my company is only open mon - fri. but the trucks roll 24/7. my last 2 companies were also mon - fri. trucks still rolled 24/7. so the trucks ran the 70/8 rule. there's no way one could run the 60/7 rule. thats not enough hours to work with during the week.

none of my 3 companies have terminals or anything of that nature. and my current company. haven't seen them since i left orientation.

all 3 are long haul operations. the first 2 being regional and home most weekends.

EDIT. just reread condo's answer.

THANKS CONDO.

 

According to the Feds, if the vehicle he is driving meets the definition of "commercial motor vehicle" (over 10,000# GVWR or GCWR), then any time "driving" it would be "Driving" time.

 

now, if the scalemaster would answer the question as to the 60/7 and 70/8 rule. that would really be sweet.

 

That takes donuts! Big powdery creme filled ones!